Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.misty.com!news.iecc.com!.POSTED!nerds-end From: Gene Wirchenko Newsgroups: comp.compilers Subject: Re: Programming language and IDE design Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:03:18 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Sender: johnl@iecc.com Approved: comp.compilers@iecc.com Message-ID: <13-10-020@comp.compilers> References: <13-10-016@comp.compilers> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.iecc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: leila.iecc.com 1382366143 87857 64.57.183.58 (21 Oct 2013 14:35:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@iecc.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Keywords: design, comment Posted-Date: 21 Oct 2013 10:35:43 EDT X-submission-address: compilers@iecc.com X-moderator-address: compilers-request@iecc.com X-FAQ-and-archives: http://compilers.iecc.com Xref: csiph.com comp.compilers:1003 On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:06:26 +0100, Martin Ward wrote: [snip] >So my assertion is "Source code should be hard to write": *even if* >the writing difficulty does not result in any improvement in ease of >reading! For example: before any programmer checks in a new module or >program change, they should be forced to write out all the code >longhand with a quill pen. This apparently pointless extra work >should give programmer's the opportunity to think about whether there >might be a shorter way to solve the problem (which might even be >easier to read and understand). It is pointless. I would be too concerned with the writing to look much at the code. Someone who is not inclined to think more about the problem is not going to start doing so because you make him write it longhand. [snip] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko [He's being ironic, dude. Keypunching often had this salutary effect. -John]