Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.glorb.com!news-out.readnews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!news.misty.com!news.iecc.com!nerds-end From: "Derek M. Jones" Newsgroups: comp.compilers Subject: Re: programming in PL/I Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:08:29 +0000 Organization: virginmedia.com Lines: 25 Sender: news@iecc.com Approved: comp.compilers@iecc.com Message-ID: <12-01-020@comp.compilers> References: <12-01-009@comp.compilers> <12-01-010@comp.compilers> <12-01-013@comp.compilers> <12-01-017@comp.compilers> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.iecc.com X-Trace: leila.iecc.com 1326572091 88432 64.57.183.58 (14 Jan 2012 20:14:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@iecc.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Keywords: PL/I, comment Posted-Date: 14 Jan 2012 15:14:51 EST X-submission-address: compilers@iecc.com X-moderator-address: compilers-request@iecc.com X-FAQ-and-archives: http://compilers.iecc.com Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.compilers:419 Hello, It is interesting to hear someone stand up for PL/1 these days. http://shape-of-code.coding-guidelines.com/2011/09/25/does-the-uk-need-the-pl1-standard/ >> Is there a reason to prefer PL/I over C++ or Java? > > People coming from IBM envionments usually don't have any C experience but > often do have a reasonable working knowledge of PL/I or at least exposure to > it. PL/I is more powerful than C, Since both are Turing complete languages how is PL/1 more powerful? > is older, has good optimizing compilers > available, But are they available for cpus that most people use today? > and I personally prefer it. Probably the major reason why people promote the benefits of any language. [This is getting a bit far from compiler design. PL/I suffers and benefits from being a kitchen sink language. Cobol-style pictures are really handy if you're doing formatted numeric I/O, just strange otherwise. -John]