Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Optimization by programmers Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 01:49:46 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <86mrsji9qt.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <1177fdi$26ea4$1@dont-email.me> <119j4g4$4kn$1@reader1.panix.com> <119jbt5$cn3a$1@dont-email.me> <86pkxtplou.fsf@linuxsc.com> <11a0580$gjj$1@reader2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 08:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="3592157"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19a6r0MPVkRpwZ/1PuJI/Mq9u3yBrEOxlQ="; posting-host="1f2789f15d316c232bd9e49999d71d7c" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ipz5NPc04dSDnnwU3pYMH+BYejo= sha1:dhlrALXAcDpT8SLD7oQi75lnoQU= sha256:EUcDXk4IOBVriYFZFqdxngC8Rdrpjt8x8cQIaYhkSNQ= sha1:tKf7Gflf7uNfCUGLH5YyhX81UpU= sha256:N8+3TlH/LlBk4TSTAguZp60gaB1LvjW9rbAHTF8WXPc= Xref: csiph.com comp.arch:118555 cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes: > In article <86pkxtplou.fsf@linuxsc.com>, > Tim Rentsch wrote: > >> Terje Mathisen writes: >> >> [on learning Rust] >> >>> Quite often, when "fighting the borrow checker", typically because >>> I'm updating a complicated data structure in two locations at the >>> same time, I'll fall back to "write Fortran in Rust", with every >>> access indexed. >>> >>> This is BTW one of those problems the brand new upcoming borrow >>> checker is supposed to be far better at figuring out: If I'm >>> updating totally separate parts of the same larger structure, >>> then it should be OK to mutate both at the same time. >>> >>> I do realize that there are far more Rusty ways to solve this >>> type of issue, they just don't come naturally to me yet. >> >> (Please excuse my pursuing this non-arch topic...) >> >> Question for any Rusters in the group -- >> >> What is the best was to learn the Rust programming language? >> Which books or other documents are the best introductory or >> reference materials? >> >> Disclaimer: My experience with Rust is more than zero but >> not a lot more than zero. > > Without knowing what methods you have tried, what books you have > already explored, what you found dissatisfying about them, and > why, it is impossible to give you a good answer. Fortunately some other people found it possible to give helpful replies.