Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Optimization by programmers Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2026 21:23:03 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <86ik3jo1js.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <1177fdi$26ea4$1@dont-email.me> <119btc7$1n32h$1@dont-email.me> <86bj9hr91x.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20260928195833.00001d42@yahoo.com> <119j4g4$4kn$1@reader1.panix.com> <119jbt5$cn3a$1@dont-email.me> <86pkxtplou.fsf@linuxsc.com> <119otm8$2c89q$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2026 04:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="2834329"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19N8CVUIJItP0Cx3phhHQY+OpsfJpp/B8E="; posting-host="b0e28b4afc9fd8b2450f610d134fbfb4" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9VGRmpcYkrr0QVjf8WnD6Es4zXA= sha1:f0ZBfgMrh2sMsrllJ/Bo4ZebGKw= sha256:rupOAZzie1zvliGPeC0ca7GTX6EMg72FSBvd4SUBibM= sha1:dgDvb25HoGq5ywx9R1ZELMmeUjA= sha256:4SsCih8sA+obXb5JoKsaGoIb45klzB0rGvfZ9UGvGlY= Xref: csiph.com comp.arch:118413 Terje Mathisen writes: > Tim Rentsch wrote: > >> Terje Mathisen writes: >> >> [on learning Rust] >> >>> Quite often, when "fighting the borrow checker", typically because >>> I'm updating a complicated data structure in two locations at the >>> same time, I'll fall back to "write Fortran in Rust", with every >>> access indexed. >>> >>> This is BTW one of those problems the brand new upcoming borrow >>> checker is supposed to be far better at figuring out: If I'm >>> updating totally separate parts of the same larger structure, >>> then it should be OK to mutate both at the same time. >>> >>> I do realize that there are far more Rusty ways to solve this >>> type of issue, they just don't come naturally to me yet. >> >> (Please excuse my pursuing this non-arch topic...) >> >> Question for any Rusters in the group -- >> >> What is the best was to learn the Rust programming language? >> Which books or other documents are the best introductory or >> reference materials? >> >> Disclaimer: My experience with Rust is more than zero but >> not a lot more than zero. > > My personal Rust journey has been driven by a desire to match or > beat the fastest known times for the Advent of Code puzzles, from > 2015 to 2025. That's good to know but what is a good resource to learn the Rust language? I've looked at the Rust book several times and each time come away rather frustrated.