Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S Newsgroups: comp.arch,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Why VAX Was the Ultimate CISC and Not RISC Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 21:16:41 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <20261027211641.00000065@yahoo.com> References: <11bqp4m$hu2$1@reader2.panix.com> <20261027201539.00001cb0@yahoo.com> <11bqrqi$2c1$1@reader2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 19:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="1776132"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/L0eZd4WyK7Lq/jB5CcTCm6wUj+U6B3+g="; posting-host="8efa9109d06590231713727ed89af78c" Cancel-Lock: sha1:w448/nM/ZBtcogan335scwXy/M8= sha256:5PK9EGA5DkgND65AeVQS2v/JDb2wC80jffYjLDc+nCs= sha1:LvjIG5DaJP02pV525kxadayZvI0= sha256:1QjQw3c+DwPPP4kCobph4fQV8xnJsgw61bUTgANIkrA= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.34; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.arch:118890 alt.folklore.computers:236177 On Tue, 27 Oct 2026 18:50:58 -0000 (UTC) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) wrote: > In article <20261027201539.00001cb0@yahoo.com>, > Michael S wrote: > >On Tue, 27 Oct 2026 18:05:10 -0000 (UTC) > >cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) wrote: > > =20 > >> In article , Roman Belenov > >> wrote: =20 > >> >Lawrence D=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2Olive= iro writes: > >> > =20 > >> >> All part of the original plan, didn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2= =AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t you know? NT was > >> >> designed at the beginning to be a portable OS, able to run on a > >> >> range of architectures -- development actually started, not on > >> >> x86, but on MIPS. =20 > >> > > >> >Wasn't it i860? =20 > >> > >> Yes. i860 was the first architecture to boot NT. > >> > >> - Dan C. > >> =20 > > > >Wikipedia claims that the first architecture to boot NT was i860 > >emulator. They don't say what was the hardware host of the emulator. > >The first boot on bare metal most likely happened on MIPS R3000. =20 >=20 > Believe what you want, but I have this first-hand from an > engineer who was there. >=20 > - Dan C. >=20 Looked further and found this: https://x.com/davepl1968/status/2103977673425047588 Sounds like Wikipedia story is not complete. The complete story was: 1. First boot - i860 emulator running on i386 under OS/2 2. First boot on bare metal - i860 XR. Unsatisfactory performance. 3. Boot on MIPS 3 months thereafter.