Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.snarked.org!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!panix!not-for-mail From: Grant Edwards Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded Subject: Re: Makefile or not? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 19:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 67-130-15-94.dia.static.qwest.net X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1543865810 19036 67.130.15.94 (3 Dec 2018 19:36:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 19:36:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Xref: csiph.com comp.arch.embedded:28370 On 2018-12-03, DJ Delorie wrote: > Grant Edwards writes: >> I use Emacs, makefiles, and meld. > > +1 on those. My memory isn't good enough any more to remember all > the byzantine steps through an IDE to re-complete all the tasks my > projects require. > > Especially since each MCU seems to have a *different* IDE with > *different* procedures to forget... > > And that's assuming they run on Linux in the first place ;-) The most important rule to remember is: Never, ever, use any software written or provided by the silicon vendor. Everytime I've failed to obey that rule, I've regretted it. I've heard rumors that Intel at one time wrote a pretty good C compiler for x86. However, having used other development software from Intel, I find that impossible to believe. [Acually, Intel MDS-800 "blue boxes" weren't bad as long as you ran CP/M on them insteaod of, ISIS.] And don't get me started on compilers and tools from TI, Motorola, or various others either... Some of them have put some effort into getting good Gnu GCC and binutils support for their processors, and that seems to produce good results. If only they had realized that's all they really needed to do in the _first_ place... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Can you MAIL a BEAN at CAKE? gmail.com