Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E. R." Newsgroups: alt.os.linux Subject: Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 22:04:12 +0100 Lines: 74 Message-ID: References: <5kv5alxctp.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <7t5malx9rp.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net oWXX6E+lTuDeMYekOEWlOA1KVcHQ7TFHtru6UwIhc6Nb27FbBc Cancel-Lock: sha1:4pZS5OjKRm7F2Lnr4ZOPRmyo8bw= sha256:GSIJJ/qasIF5vlvNS/QbmNwWW+Uzu6aBr5vMM83WypM= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-CA, es-ANY In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.os.linux:81131 On 2025-03-17 20:21, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 3/17/2025 2:23 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-03-17 15:05, Anssi Saari wrote: >>> Dan Purgert writes: >>> >>>> On 2025-03-15, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>>> For example, are you allowed to put NTFS on a hot-pluggable volume? >>>>> Somehow, I don’t think so. >>>> >>>> Practically every USB stick in existence would like to disagree. >>> >>> Those are usually FAT formatted. FAT32 or the newer exFAT. No issue >>> reformatting to NTFS though. >>> >>> I've actually found NTFS on a USB SSD to be surprisingly widely >>> supported on media players and TVs and such. I've used it on Android >>> too. So NTFS has become my go-to portable FS. >> >> exFAT is better, but few TV sets support it, while many support NTFS. >> > > EXFAT requires a license. > > NTFS requires a license. > > FAT32 requires a license (or at least TomTom may have discovered it did :-) ) > I remember that, there was a court case. > One difference is, some applications of EXFAT are > covered by FRAND (where EXFAT is defined in a standards doc, > as the default filesystem for a certain piece of hardware). > > In any case, whether license terms are fair and reasonable, > or are the normal kind of license terms, equipment makers > will not pay a penny more for licensing. It does not latter > what the license fee is, they don't want to pay it, whatever it is. Ah, I understand. > > NTFS is journaled. NTFS is slightly harder on a USB stick, > from a wear perspective. You can improve the characteristics > a tiny bit, by disabling "LastAccessed". I did not know that. > FAT32 and EXFAT are not journaled. You can set the cluster > size on FAT32 and EXFAT (make it greater than or equal to > the flash page size). Similar to disabling the journal on ext4. And there is no licensing on it. > > BTFS BTFS? > supports extra large clusters, but the option is not > backward compatible (a Win11 NTFS partition with one megabyte > clusters, cannot be mounted by Windows XP, or by Windows 7). > And that doesn't include testing the Linux response, as if > an option isn't intended to be compatible, nobody is going to use it. > > Paul Right. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R.