Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: A good thing or a bad thing Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 23:10:13 +0200 Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: <7u5lblxjel.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net Xeu4uPN/TZcL1AP5FcbskAwQhFOsE00l1srLnXZxObFd4Z2/V+ X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:fi16JU4qEAlNMa18JYAKiZw4Z7k= sha256:HnqEm3qn5qYIqrywS3izNVjSAyBbmF+y9e1YZq7ke0w= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:145543 alt.os.linux:81399 alt.comp.os.windows-10:183737 comp.mobile.android:147862 On 2025-04-16 22:26, Alan wrote: > On 2025-04-16 05:28, Paul wrote: >> On Wed, 4/16/2025 6:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 15/04/2025 6:01 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-14 17:48, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>> Arno Welzel wrote: >>>>>> Arno Welzel, 2025-04-14 13:18: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-13 15:57: >>>>>> [...] >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Yes, I agree, that Android has the flexibility to user other >>>>>> methods as >>>>>> well, like backup apps, ADB and so on - but this needs enough >>>>>> experience >>>>>> by the user like how to set up ADB on a computer or how to >>>>>> transfer the >>>>>> backup to another device using USB and so on. >>>>> >>>>>     The methods I mentioned do not require the user to setup ADB. The >>>>> Smart Switch Android-to-Windows backup does use a USB-cable, but no >>>>> ADB. >>>>> The Smart Switch Android app can transfer to another phone by Wi-Fi or >>>>> USB and can backup to cloud, SD-card or USB-stick. >>>> >>>> That's a Samsung app, I understand. What about a generic full backup >>>> app, non adb? For any operating system, not Windows only? >>> >>> Don't know about a Samsung App but, in Linux, I can use a 'dd' >>> commandline command to back up both my Windows and Linux installations. >>> >>> Is there a similar commandline command for Android and/or Apple Mac?? >> >> On computing devices that support booting from a second OS, you can >> gain "dd" access from the second OS. On my MacG4, I booted the Ubuntu PPC >> DVD, and used Ubuntu "dd" to transfer out the disk (which would be at- >> rest). >> I used a command line FTP session, and you can mix shell commands into >> the ftp commands -- dd can be piped into a (binary) "put". And on the >> computer >> I did that on, the GbE at 112MB/sec, that's the fastest interface it >> has got. >> >> But something like a phone, there are fewer opportunities for tricks >> like that. >> Rooting the phone, if you can manage it, is as close as you're getting >> to a good time. >> >> On at least one phone, the NAND is hidden underneath something, and >> you can't cable up and read-out the NAND chip with external equipment. >> For some of the devices, it's pretty well secured. You would not expect >> a simple trick to work in such a case. >> >>     Paul > > Or you could just use the "dd" command built into the Unix sub-system of > every Mac since Mac OS X was first released in 2001... Not on a phone. -- Cheers, Carlos.