Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:06:55 +0200 Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <7u5lblxjel.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <6rhvblxb0d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net WCzXwbT0Hp0NGEmLKq95MAQ+B7DeGoaZQnfefuju+ZRSPEF/7k X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:uxR9ZCgqT14Z4ge6AcbnjYRO4Jk= sha256:tUV/XLeYsBXAIENABJFpvB1+tstGodKYaagP6oeJTPY= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:145459 alt.os.linux:81313 alt.comp.os.windows-10:183357 comp.mobile.android:147691 On 2025-04-08 11:19, Daniel70 wrote: > On 8/04/2025 4:07 pm, Marion wrote: >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 02:37:12 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote : >> >>>> There is free open source software which does not cost money but when >>>> distributed by the Apple App Store, it's locked to a specific Apple ID. >>>> >>>> No other operating system vendor does that for software that is free. >>>> Only Apple. >>> >>> AGAIN, that is not FREE Software. >>> >>> Stop calling it Free. It ain't. This is serious, Arlen. Study it up. You >>> claim to be clever. Be it. >>> >>>> Call it whatever you want to call it, but that's what Apple does to it. >>> >>> I don't care who does it. >> >> The fact that only Apple adds locks (to an Apple ID) on software that no >> other operating system locks is the technical point that matters here. >> >> That lock goes on *all* software from Apple. Every single app. Every >> type. >> No matter what type of app it is. It gets that unique lock only Apple >> does. >> >> That's what's different. The lock. It's unique. Only Apple does that. >> >> That lock prevents re-use. And that lock allows Apple to track you. >> And that's what's bad. >> > Am I mis-reading what is being posted here?? > > Both Marion *AND* Carlos E.R. seem to be suggesting that *only* Apple > locks a user into their/Apples system .... Other OSs/systems are not > locking their users into THEIR OSs/Systems. > > Or am I mis-understanding what is being posted?? No, I am saying nothing about the lock. I don't care, I don't have any Apple. What I say is that if there is a lock, the Apple software may be gratis, but it is not Free (as in Freedom). Free means I am free to take the source code, remove the lock, recompile, and sell it myself. With variants in the details by the licensing. -- Cheers, Carlos.