Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Apple adds 2008-2009 Macs to list of 'vintage and obsolete' products
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 08:27:42 +0100
Organization: Me, Myself and I
Lines: 52
Message-ID: <eo7vkc-d8a.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
References: <n5gsfi$l0r$1@speranza.aioe.org> <n5hda3$v5$1@dont-email.me>
Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="13f37dd5708c3bde6d7227ebe71a7235"; logging-data="29460"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18/kwuvmiVcnWi6dVBdzUZq0JBLurOpZoU="
Originator: mrr@sambook.reistad.name (Morten Reistad)
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:RDlrVR+DUNhNp0/1urB4GDLX9XQ=
Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:155608

In article <n5hda3$v5$1@dont-email.me>, Dan Espen  <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>Laurent Delacroix <laurent@krutt.org> writes:
>
>> So:
>>  * when did we stop delivering performance?
>...
>>  * how come no one seems to have realized that we're "running in place",
>> we're doing the same exact stuff, just inside a more polished (and less
>> functional, IMHO) user interface? And why are most users ready to give
>> up perfectly working computers (and phones - well, aint't the two the
>> same these days?) just to write our email or spreadsheets in a more
>> colorful interface?
>>
>> End of rant :-)
>
>So how come, when I read these rants do I feel left out?
>
>I'm still running the exact same Fvwm interface I designed 20 years ago.
>Slightly tuned up, but at the core, still exactly what I want.

I caved in and have gnome/ubuntu on a few machines But on my trusty
travel laptop I keep running xfce4.

>At the same time, Linux has made leaps and bounds.
>The most obvious place I see that is in boot times which
>systemd has dropped to seconds.  Sound works better but mostly
>Linux just continues to work.

I am down to around 45 seconds for a full cold start, 12 of which
are spent in the bios.

>I replaced my system disk with a 128G SSD.
>That's a really nice improvement getting Firefox startup time
>to pretty much instant, and even Libreoffice and Gimp come up
>reasonably quick.
>
>So, no complaints here.
>
>I'm seeing pretty much the same interface, with improvements in speed
>and function.

And a _lot_ of improvement on battery life. Yes, I run arm, with
the samsung chromebooks and a linux reinstall. 10 hours usable work
time on a $200 laptop.
>
>Oh yeah, my favorite tool Emacs gets better too.

The build times stay constand though. 90 seconds for make -j n where
n is the number of processors.

-- mrr