Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "hanja" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Qbasic Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 04:14:50 +1100 Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <5d047d70-4405-4b2c-8c36-5c95e759ee8a@googlegroups.com> <87zitqfk6s.fsf@garlic.com> <1392488070.480434197.662589.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <2116130262.480477304.545936.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <5d047d70-4405-4b2c-8c36-5c95e759ee8a@googlegroups.com> <1697891753.480285891.500850.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <87zitqfk6s.fsf@garlic.com> <1392488070.480434197.662589.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <2116130262.480477304.545936.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net j4ljOGrrV8IUfA07xD6gQwNb5aNb286NvhoNXxBWCefgB4fqE= Cancel-Lock: sha1:w++VOJDQeteRlqnFkQ1j2E2ddjo= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:161501 "jmfbahciv" wrote in message news:PM00052EF39109C2FC@aca40d98.ipt.aol.com... > Dave Garland wrote: >> On 3/25/2016 7:57 AM, jmfbahciv wrote: >>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> Peter Flass writes: >>>>> Dave Garland wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Obviously I'm not an authority, but most conservative thinking seems >>>>> to >>>>> focus on individual liberty, >>>> >>>> Really? What about abortion? What about gay marriage? Aren't >>>> those >>>> fundamentally "individual liberty"? >>> >>> I think it's more about control of behaviour of people who don't >>> appear to belong to the norm. I get a rash of shit from some >>> of my family w.r.t. religion but they think they have every >>> right to vocalize their biogry in my house. They seem to use >>> bigotry as general reasoning against anything they think >>> they don't like. >> >> Good point. A lot of it is intolerance of deviation from "the norm", >> with personal/local/tribal determination of norm. Of course that's not >> entirely a conservative thing (it sorta fits the dictionary >> definitions but not the economic ones), it may even be a human nature >> or tribal thing. By that definition, China is conservative (sounds >> right to me). It does seem to be endemic among US conservatives though. > They're just the ones who are vocal about it. I've found that the left > has similar intolerances; the difference is that the left's solutions > are to invoke governmental rules and regulations to limit the behaviour > and punish with fees and penalties. That isn't how the hippies operate and you can't get more left than that. For example, they are leery > of a female being self-sufficient That isnt what hippies and women's lib lefties are about. and solve that problem by herding > people into being dependent on goverment income and "benefits". That isnt what hippies and women's lib lefties are about. > Divorce is acceptable now because the responsibilities and > economies previously covered by marriage has now been transferred > to the Federal/State governements. Even sillier than you usually manage.