Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bob Eager Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Date: 3 Feb 2016 08:45:03 GMT Lines: 64 Message-ID: References: <977171a2-738d-4405-9241-7cd8f403ef94@googlegroups.com> <56AB34BF.9030305@koerber.org> <9b5oabh1k6vuil2c7pd59bop74qtqfefht@4ax.com> <8737tf4y41.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> <6a77d7ef-5dc8-4c56-a765-29c76b500a57@googlegroups.com> <178029475.475890088.507946.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <20160131094248.39f4c0b282484fa720279fae@eircom.net> <7JmdnZv5zeBjLTLLnZ2dnUU78cOdnZ2d@giganews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net AAxSYacXVov3tN0ACRKy9gMwEmTSvZPx7KS9xmxjoHYZPbFMli Cancel-Lock: sha1:tyNmOOKaqh46FzWLfsdqwiuzT+k= User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:158681 On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 15:25:19 +1100, Blanco wrote: > "Bob Eager" wrote in message > news:dhd2rgFfseU29@mid.individual.net... >> On Tue, 02 Feb 2016 20:34:42 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2016-02-02, Bob Eager wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2016 16:23:14 +1100, jack wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Mathias Koerber" wrote in message >>>>> news:dhaqk1F415fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> >>>>>>> The only thing they can't do is the tolls on roads, but that is >>>>>>> because a card wont work in that situation because the system >>>>>>> needs to be able to see the thing in the car from a much greater >>>>>>> distance than with the cards which you tap against the card >>>>>>> reader. >>>>>> >>>>>> ERP has worked in Singapore for years, with a reader that holds a >>>>>> cashcard (stored-value card).. >>>>> >>>>> Ours is entirely cardless. You just register the thing that goes in >>>>> the car. >>>> >>>> We don't even have a thing that goes in the car any more. You >>>> register all your cars and it just recognises the number plate. >>> >>> That's an option with our system, but it's mostly there to accomodate >>> visitors. You pay less if you get the RFID tag. Presumably that's >>> because number plate recognition is more work for the tolling agency. >> >> We had RFID tags for years, but they phased them out in favour of the >> ANPR. It seems to work pretty well. I do have the old RFID tag in the >> car still. > > Yeah, it is a better system than RFID if only because it doesn’t need > anything special in the car and there is no need to have a deposit on > the RFID or charge for it and because it handles visitors completely > automatically, tho there may be a problem actually getting the money out > of visitors after the event. There are a few problems with that. Not with UK drivers, but those from different countries. UK drivers are traceable and get hit with a hefty fine if they don't pay (usually by the end of next day). The others tend to get away with it but they're working on that! > Be interesting to know how well it works with the vehicles that can't > have a proper plate on the front like motorbikes etc. No big deal if it > doesn’t, its still a much better system than RFID. Motorbikes go free, as do a few others. Here's an example of the one I use most frequently: https://www.gov.uk/dartford-crossing-fees-exemptions-penalties -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org