Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Orange" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:41:22 +1100 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <9527c347-d65c-4460-891b-0df68adcf841@googlegroups.com> <1006887734.475103003.946879.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <3522a494-6a3f-418b-8c65-809bffd7c0b3@googlegroups.com> <87lh7hyqb8.fsf@garlic.com> <6200fcb2-7fcb-47c5-ae3d-161e399e6d07@googlegroups.com> <0a343fff-91ce-43b7-9278-9a677b059298@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net jP0/8ggD/FT7n3w+SKy0aQGPdMzlxy2ibwXRTWxhYBhcgUILQ= Cancel-Lock: sha1:J2o+2tZuaUIeKcmzePZdhYrBf4M= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:157720 "J. Clarke" wrote in message news:MPG.31108c9588be0976989ea0@news.eternal-september.org... > In article <0a343fff-91ce-43b7-9278-9a677b059298@googlegroups.com>, > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says... >> >> On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 4:36:56 PM UTC-5, Walter Banks wrote: >> >> > A friend of mine during the Vietnam war's response to Vietcong armed >> > with primitive weapons standing up to the most sophisticated weapons in >> > the world to "Why doesn't he realize his cause if futile?" responded >> > "How can anyone win against anyone who is willing to do that?" >> >> A biography of McNamera indicates the military was very frustrated >> with the Viet Cong for refusing to come out to fight in a way that >> the Americans expected and would be beneficial to American tactics. >> >> Oddly, I'm told American military strategy classes recognized the >> fight against guerilla warefare in 1962, but somehow those lessons >> never made it to Vietnam. The prosecution of the war was horrendous. >> (Not helping was that generals on the ground in 'nam were sending >> back false reports to McN, and McN used them in his statistical battle >> plans.) > > Ever read the biography of Giap? He's quoted as admitting that he was > beaten and that it would take him a decade or more to recover--the > Americnas then withdrawing he regarded as something of a miracle. > > It really wasn't the plucky little VC showing the bumbing yanks how it > was done, it was the politicians and the peace movement that got the US > out of Vietnam. Because it became obvious that the US military was never going to be able to stop the vietcong from attacking anything they liked.