Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 10:53:14 -1000 Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 44 Message-ID: <87sg5ieekl.fsf@localhost> References: <20210113205926.f1dc7911052eaf1af13f6d58@eircom.net> <87czwqf1d6.fsf@sci.fidan.com> <423323245.635876534.605670.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <79if3gl7vjo1naq5u1mor1mlcp52prsij8@4ax.com> <436932825.635995336.446818.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b16849cd39b94a87fda4087e58bc9641"; logging-data="20548"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18pSYocaKQpMXog3y31Xv7fH0AsuG7Q0yk=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yGUkN0GbNy727tRKh0vzz9W8QKM= sha1:F1dnZBIVCEcrXc3S/YE3RPnDimw= Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:217151 JimP writes: > theater and see lots of stars. Last time I was back over there, high > pressure sodium lights lined the highway. Of course, the drive-ins are > all gone to. in early 80s, I started HSDT project, t1 and faster speed links ... was also working with NSF director and was suppose to get $20M to interconnecct the NSF supercomputer centers (congress then cuts the budget, some other things happen, and eventually NSF puts out RFP in part based on what we already had running). NSF had also given $60M to UC for a Berkeley supercomputer center ... but the regents master plan had UCSD getting the next bldg ... so it went there instead (UCSD supercomputer center operations subcontracted to general atomics). Something of side effect, got involved in the Berkeley 10m telescope project, they were doing some testing at Lick observatory (east of san jose) ... including playing with CCDs as part of converting astronomy from film to electronics (and be able to do remote observing from ground level and back on the mainland). They only had 200x200 pel CCD (40k) for testing but there were rumors that Spielberg had 2Kx2K (4mpel) CCDs (migrating movie industry from film to CCD). At the time San Jose was going to convert from mercury to sodium street lights and Lick was fighting over high-pressure sodium verses low-pressure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_vapor_lamp#Light_pollution_considerations Eventually the project got a grant from Keck Foundation and it becomes the Keck Observatory https://www.keckobservatory.org/ the initial sizing of mainland remote viewing was it needed at least 800kbits/sec. NSF RFP trivia drift: internal politics prevent us from bidding, the NSF director tries to help by writting the company a letter, copying the CEO (with support from other gov. agencies) ... but that just made the internal politics worse (as did comments that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses). old post with copy of 28Mar1986 preliminary release. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#12 -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970