Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn Wheeler Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: history of ASCII and IBM ratfucking, and the VAX (was Re: CMS, Self-hosting and the 6502) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2026 14:12:05 -1000 Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 18 Message-ID: <87ld96102y.fsf@localhost> References: <10qehuo$2nu4m$1@dont-email.me> <87h5pqwd5j.fsf@localhost> <10qs7og$129km$4@dont-email.me> <10qt6h6$19mab$1@dont-email.me> <10qucqd$cs9$2@gal.iecc.com> <87zf3horqg.fsf@localhost> <87pkykc7s9.fsf_-_@debian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2026 00:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="225155"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18huKr0ahM3Eluu5ttDjESngpEHtsdl3ew="; posting-host="e5bbf9cf81d96432ad63a411999323a3" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FuMgXnr9Svq3f1qJVJip2tSQAY0= sha1:uSUxCYaFDfj6EoXSfzQ+tw/0wO4= sha256:1uTSa1Np4XJvOYrrvXjjccUF0heobmPk60xkcSUTF0c= sha1:lqoSNpBtaJwVOdHLtDJXIeJALpU= sha256:yuTAPUlASZBeRLZEqsamgkKlgb9+j0EFAB0jMYmMDtQ= Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:235593 Kragen Javier Sitaker writes: >> trivia: old archived post with decade of VAX/VMS numbers ... VM/4341s >> sold in approx. same numbers in single or small unit numbers ... big >> difference were the large orders for hundreds of VM/4341 at a time. >> https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#0 > > Sad to say, garlic.com seems to have broken your link here. > > works for now. Your post archive links are extremely valuable, and I > hope you can get your archive back on the live web — and maybe license > it under a Creative Commons license so that it’s clearly legal for > people to archive. ... PCs & PC browser seem to work ... it seems to be mostly cellphone and tablet for which it has disappeared. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970