Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Computers anyone? Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 12:37:09 -0800 Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 35 Message-ID: <87fuvva0wa.fsf@garlic.com> References: <874mcfu0w7.fsf@garlic.com> <4qidnScPE9p74X3LnZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@giganews.com> <87d1r3w2um.fsf@garlic.com> <878u1rw1w6.fsf@garlic.com> <874mcfvu0v.fsf@garlic.com> <87bn6lzoad.fsf@garlic.com> <87bn6klv2s.fsf@garlic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="9a6c8ce24fcd2caeb84dd64e0fa6007c"; logging-data="10100"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18D2mqhTiKhUZb/9urzvRAYorspVH0NEKA=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9f92gkCa8nuZCpeSqAQvNh6jK7w= sha1:WvgjPTwEGvZB3DNH2AKQfE45HJ4= Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:160907 latest in discussion groups finally somebody has decided to use http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/ov-10-broncos-were-sent-to-fight-isis-and-they-kicked-a-1764407068 Instead of providing light support aircraft loaded with technology like the OV-10 Bronco, we spent billions fighting men in mud huts carrying rusty AK-47s with F-16s and F-15s costing tens of thousands an hour to operate. We literally flew the wings off our fighter fleet in the process. ... the latest flavor http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/12/28/after-delays-a29-attack-aircraft-to-arrive-afghanistan-2016.html of course there isn't trillions of dollars for the military-industrial(-congressional) complex. Part of the current cry is no matter how bad the F-35 is ... it is the only thing there is ... and if they can wear-out the current air fleet, it will accelerate the spending of trillions on the F-35. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex One of the comments was picture/reference to RAF&Rhodesian Hunter crews in 1954 practiced by shooting holes in trash can (which is compareable to what they are using F15s&F16s now). GAO air power analysis of Desert Storm (42 days, only last 100hrs involved land warfare). One of the most effective were A10 with 30mm ... used a million 30mm @$13 ... or $13M (and enormously so in effectiveness/$$) ... one of the reasons that MICC doesn't like the A10. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970