Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Qbasic Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:38:18 -0700 Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 21 Message-ID: <877ffiq4md.fsf@garlic.com> References: <2063913994.482510165.542488.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <8af7f335-fc53-4c5f-8b9b-9321928afc0f@googlegroups.com> <20160427060611.8b612d9d39088ff7371bd74f@eircom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="6a701f7a2f120c3c3ec794af16136f6c"; logging-data="16182"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/syCb9xKQec60QlpQWSiEpmrQ8ttEPScs=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ptdZGdk9VWnfFcZHRVdXRNdMsDM= sha1:5Y6TE5LyhuceJsYb+DjYRUY/tIY= Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:163002 Michael Black writes: > But in hobby circles, the acoustic modems may have hung on a bit > longer, since one didn't need a DAA or approval of the whole modem. > Steve Ciarcia certainly described an acoustic modem in the early > eighties, I want to say 1984 but I don't know. The small rectangle flat card-swipe, point-of-sale terminals were an emulated pc/xt and could be heard with the funny modem connection noise for dial-up transactions (low-volume merchants that had separate dial-up for every transactions, now lots are moving to internet). Last decade there was some look at moving to 56kbit dialup, but with an avg. transaction size of 60bytes, the 56kbit modem protocol connect negotiation took longer than slow-speed negotiation & transmission of 60bytes. for other topic drift, posts mentioning consumer dialup banking ... and justification for moving to the internet in the mid-90s http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970