Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.firefox Subject: Re: Tor Browser User Survey Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 17:47:01 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <86r01skq9m.fsf@example.com> References: <20250415.234434.f92ddeb9@yamn.paranoici.org> <9h2uvj1kcibpeldjp0c128codk1u8aiqa1@4ax.com> <86ikn44659.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="144304"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:e3Q6346x3za507tm2HeaOqiKPNg= sha1:P+H7QWiSvDC50xDTEAMWGHKzKFs= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBACAIA8BKONiQOH70j+AdXUMnQ1Sw2VkLozVB4PY25nOHdslq+rsrEcN4NJ+ZgR8DlQ/c Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.software.firefox:13106 Jörg Lorenz writes: > On 16.04.25 14:56, Richmond wrote: >> "John C." writes: >> >>> IMO, using Tor provides a convenient red-flag for TLAs to begin keeping >>> an eye on a person to see if they're using the browser for illicit >>> reasons. I am likewise thoroughly convinced that it's transparent to >>> such agencies and has always been so. >> In my opinion it is not much different from using a VPN, more >> convenient >> perhaps as you don't have to find a provider and configure it. > > Agreed but the loss of speed is not acceptable under normal circumstances. > >> Here in the UK the government requires ISPs to keep a log of URLs >> visited. There are many legitimate reasons why you might not want a >> log, for example looking up mental health issues. > > DNS over HTTPS exists and your government is blind. That doesn't stop them logging the IP address of the site you visit.