Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.firefox Subject: Re: Tor Browser User Survey Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2025 21:14:12 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <86mscbhpt7.fsf@example.com> References: <20250415.234434.f92ddeb9@yamn.paranoici.org> <9h2uvj1kcibpeldjp0c128codk1u8aiqa1@4ax.com> <86ikn44659.fsf@example.com> <868qnyh7o0.fsf@example.com> <86y0vwbd9x.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="272090"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XZFfAtp4oBHLkdRzq2kyMH+oJmM= sha1:waonKss6Sl+EabN4VNsEf/U+WdY= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXsC3IOzLt/ycsSdaqb6uylE57BE/ECjUx1JM1r7GqMxH03WgcmbiH/AEMlhBa Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.software.firefox:13151 mark@NotGoogle.com writes: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 12:29:14 +0100, Richmond wrote: > >>Kash Patel writes: >> >>> On 17/04/2025 21:09, Richmond wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Why are you convinced of that? It is open source, so someone can >>>> check the crypto. They may know about flaws in that. They may monitor >>>> exit nodes and look for patterns. >>> >>> >>> Are you aware that the source code made public is sanitised while the >>> binaries might be tweaked to catch people like John C browsing illegal >>> porn sites. Bad guys or government agencies know that people are not >>> going to spend time to audit the source code for anything suspicious. >>> >>> Do you know how many separate files make the source code for the >>> browser? >>> >>> China, Iran, Russia or North Korea (at government level) might spend >>> time but that's for their own national security. They can't trust >>> American or Israeli governments. >> >>I think what you have to do is consider who wants to get their hands on >>your information, and which method is going to make it most difficult >>for them. TOR may not be perfect but it is better than trusting your >>ISP. And even a VPN provider is an ISP of some sort. > > You're right. > > This idiocy of the common comp user worrying incessantly about the > gov't, etc., getting their hands on the info in their computer is > ridiculous. If that is true, then why this? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_Communications_Data_Bill Criminals use their neighbours' wifi.