Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.firefox Subject: Re: Tor Browser User Survey Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 21:09:19 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <868qnyh7o0.fsf@example.com> References: <20250415.234434.f92ddeb9@yamn.paranoici.org> <9h2uvj1kcibpeldjp0c128codk1u8aiqa1@4ax.com> <86ikn44659.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="196753"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pL0xtokHkAhQjiyeqRau/PoOl3Y= sha1:XNkayVOIYPrHofLLRqQNaAWE+Qw= X-User-ID: eJwNxckRACEIBMCUdgQGNxwOyT8EfXS1CcFypVFtbHyVxcp15igkCbiEFefV2x3oRvrDb/+MCxu5EPY= Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.software.firefox:13126 "John C." writes: > Richmond wrote: >> John C. writes: >>> >>> IMO, using Tor provides a convenient red-flag for TLAs to begin >>> keeping an eye on a person to see if they're using the browser for >>> illicit reasons. I am likewise thoroughly convinced that it's >>> transparent to such agencies and has always been so. >> >> In my opinion it is not much different from using a VPN, more >> convenient perhaps as you don't have to find a provider and configure >> it. >> >> Here in the UK the government requires ISPs to keep a log of URLs >> visited. There are many legitimate reasons why you might not want a >> log, for example looking up mental health issues. > > Over here in the U.S., many ISPs log visited URLs without even being > told to do so by the gov. > > However, as I said in my reply, "I am likewise thoroughly convinced > that it's transparent to such (TLA) agencies and has always been so." Why are you convinced of that? It is open source, so someone can check the crypto. They may know about flaws in that. They may monitor exit nodes and look for patterns. But none of it matters much if you aren't doing anything illegal. They won't want to give away their secrets lightly.