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From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>
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Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
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On 07/05/2025 14:22, Java Jive wrote:
> On 2025-05-07 09:57, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> On 05/05/2025 12:40, Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-05 11:00, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>> On 02/05/2025 22:49, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-05-02 19:15, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/05/2025 19:41, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-05-02 18:06, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 02/05/2025 15:52, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-05-02 13:42, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 02/05/2025 11:59, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/05/2025 18:38, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, on a non-problem PC, select Network in Explorer, in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the right-hand windows pane ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      <rt-click> in a blank area
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Group by
>>>>>>>>>>>>      More ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Select 'Discovery Method' and give it a width of, say, 64
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Click OK
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the problem PC show the same discovery method as the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> other non-problem PCs?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check this out as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be worth repeating this on the problem PC, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> even though I'm not sure how interesting the result would 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be, given that it can't see much, if anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you get around to trying this?  As other possibilities fall 
>>>>>>>>> by the wayside, this one assumes greater importance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still no answer to this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I did.
>>>>>> Didn't make any difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wasn't expecting it to make a difference, I was hoping it might 
>>>>> show useful information which you would then relay on to us.  What 
>>>>> method is discovering ...
>>>>>      The non-problem PCs;
>>>>>      The problem PC?
>>>>>
>>>> What do you mean by that?
>>>
>>> Follow the instructions still quoted above to display the column for 
>>> the discovery method used to find each PC listed in Network, and then 
>>> tell us what method is listed in that column for both a non-problem 
>>> PC and the problem PC.  What are they in each case, and, in 
>>> particular, are they different?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, they are different. On my wife's laptop I enabled 64, on my own 
>> pc it's 80, and on the server pc it is 240. I didn't check the 3rd pc 
>> and my laptop.
> 
> Eh?  Granted that English isn't your first language, I think you've 
> misunderstood me.  I wasn't interested in the actual column widths, I 
> wanted to know what text was displayed in that column. 

There is no text, only the column width.

> Let me try to 
> explain again, but also include the Network Location which I overlooked 
> before:
> 
> 1)  Open Explorer
> 
> 2)  In the left-hand pane (so-called 'Navigator' section of the window), 
> select Network.
> 
> 3)  In the right-hand pane (shows contents of whatever is selected in 
> the Navigator), choose a blank area and <right-click> ...
> 
> 4)  Choose 'Group by' then 'More ...'
> 
> 5)  Click the check mark opposite 'Discovery Method' to select it
> 
> 6)  Click the name part of 'Discovery Method'
> 
> 7)  Click in the entry for 'Width of selected column (in pixels)' and 
> give the new column a suitable width, anywhere around 100 should do.

I did.
> 
> 8)  If 'Network Location' is not already selected and given a suitable 
> width,  repeat steps 5-7 for that column also, giving it a width around 
> 200 or so.

I did as well.
> 
> 8)  Click 'Ok'
> 
> 9)  For both problem PC and non-problem PCs, what is now displayed in 
> those columns?  Both should contain text not number entries ...

There is no text.
> 
> The contents of 'Network Location' will depend on your system, but the 
> crucial point is that it should be the SAME for both the problem and 
> non-problem PCs.
> 
> The contents of 'Discovery Method' should be entries like NetBIOS, WSD, 
> or SSDP.  Here, mine are mostly NetBIOS, except one which is WSD which I 
> think is probably the Browser Master, but let's see if yours are in any 
> way surprising.  In particular, if all the non-problem PCs have one 
> entry while the problem PC is the only one that's different, then that 
> could be a clue to something worth further investigation.
> 

I checked my W10 pc and the other 2 W10 pc's, but there is no text. Only 
the values of the column width.

Fokke