Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 23:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: <559DF28C.3EC0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 21:03:24 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. References: <2ei5papjljr943ivvetqepgagr5j6ie61o@4ax.com> <6aofpahv2i5388355fr6lqjt4i55qfnu5v@4ax.com> <4fogpathhd6tpt6p0qlg3gb7203libvhs1@4ax.com> <559B501C.2FCF@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 158 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 23.241.144.149 X-Trace: sv3-k9QDAWcQhOCuH5fGsRlcm/JHkll3tJWMSrHDjBqfrq7TeEZxiq1zNo4/5rnS11sk/+OnYlvuPJnHEdx!uiowX/y7ee028IbqeORLNZ84fdslUeOcFss3MCViNrs4I13wJAeeaLHiuB+D0P3kfRaHpGc61qiX!tSAvkSJn3hc= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 5902 Xref: aioe.org alt.atheism:1939006 sci.physics:505741 sci.physics.relativity:356427 Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > In article , Smiler > wrote: > > > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:05:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > >> > > >> In article , Smiler > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: > > >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi > > >> > >>> wrote: > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: > > >> > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my > > >> > >>> best friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form > > >> > >>> of one. > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? > > >> > >> > > >> > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL > > >> > >>without any participation by god. > > >> > >> > > >> > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? > > >> > >> > > >> > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who > > >> > > volitionally choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a > > >> > > very carefully balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe > > >> > > in God if they choose not to. We each make our own sovereign > > >> > > choice. God doesn't make it for us. > > >> > > > >> > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given > > >> > me a reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this > > >> > supposed god character of yours, why should I believe in it? > > >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > >> > > >> I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll > > >> try again: > > >> > > >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > > > > > > There are a billion reasons WHY! > > > > > > How can you list them all? > > > > I didn't ask you to list all the reasons. All I'm interested in the 3 or > 4 that you think would be most effective in convincing me that you god > exists. (Always remembering that assertions and beliefs DO NOT CONVINCE > me.) > > I look forward to your list with great anticipation. > > -- > > JD > > Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider > evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any. You continue to repeat "convince me that your god exist". First, it is not "my God", it's your God. You don't say "OH YOUR GOD!", you say OMG "Oh, my God!!!" People don't say OYG, they say OMG. The operative word is "my". Oh, my God! my my my not your your your So, you want to be convinced that Your God exist. Do you say, "Oh your God!", or do you say "Oh, my God!!!" Of course the answer is you say "Oh, my God!!!" Now, why do you say "Oh, my God!!!" instead of "Oh your God!"? So, we're talking about your God, aren't we? The God you once believed in but for some reason you have hid Him away...deep inside of you lies Your God...He lives in your heart. I know you try to push Him away but He keeps coming back. If you look in the mirror.. you will see God. And the reflection of God that you see in the mirror is not backwards. God is not backwards. Point to the north and God points to the north. Point to the south and God points to the south. Point to the east and God points to the east. Point to the west and God points to the west. is that 3 or 4? Atheism is based on beliefs and assertions, not science. Do you want to know why God made you? For Entertainment Purposes Only. The Starmaker For some reasons i find making babies to be very entertaining.