Re: RCS messaging

From	Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: RCS messaging
Date	2025-04-04 13:12 +0000
Organization	NOYB
Message-ID	<vsosrs.mpc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> >    Do you know which servers and where RCS uses, assuming 'Arlen' is
> > using ISP X and his correspondent uses ISP Y (and vice versa)?
> 
> The servers aren't related to your ISP, they're related to your mobile 
> operator.

  Hmm!? I thought RCS used the Internet/IP/<whatever>.

  If one's mobile operator is the key player, how about costs/pricing?

  I thought RCS was 'free' like WhatsApp, but as I said, I know little
about RCS.

> Previously my operator ran their own RCS servers then (like many other 
> operators) they decided to outsource to the Jibe Mobile servers acquired 
> by Google, presumably there's a mechanism where each operator (maybe 
> based on MNC/MNO?) publishes which servers they use?

  The reason for my question was 'Arlen''s privacy concerns. As RCS uses
End-to-end encryption for Android-to-Android, I wouldn't worry about it
(I use WhatsApp and don't worry about my privacy using that platform),
but I'm not 'Arlen'.

> AFAIK the system works by looking up a mobile phone number to see if it 
> has RCS enabled, rather than looking up a google account sign-in, but 
> who knows whether or not a Google account is required for Google Messages?

  Well, that's easy for 'Arlen' to test. He doesn't have to try RCS, but
can first install the Google Messages app and see if it work (for SMS)
without a Google Account. If so, he can try RCS.

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  Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-01 20:37 +0100
    Re: RCS messaging Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-01 14:33 -0700
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              Re: RCS messaging micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 06:45 -0400
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              Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-03 12:00 +0100
                Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 15:12 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-03 14:20 +0100
                Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 18:08 +0200
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                Re: RCS messaging Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-04 10:21 +0100
                Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-04 13:00 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 16:13 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-04 19:12 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 23:22 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-04 01:20 +0000
                Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-04 13:00 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-04 12:00 +0000
                Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-04 13:20 +0100
                Re: RCS messaging Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-04 13:12 +0000
                Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-04 16:17 +0100
                Re: RCS messaging Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-04 20:01 +0000
                Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 09:52 +0200
              Re: RCS messaging micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 07:20 -0400
                Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 15:13 +0200
              Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 13:26 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 15:14 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 20:58 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 22:18 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 22:22 +0200
            Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 13:22 +0200
              Re: RCS messaging micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:55 -0400
            Re: RCS messaging Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 12:00 +0000
              Re: RCS messaging Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-03 13:12 +0100
                Re: RCS messaging Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 12:26 +0000
                Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:35 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-03 13:47 +0100
                Re: RCS messaging Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 13:05 +0000
                Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 15:27 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 09:03 -0400
                Re: RCS messaging Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 15:47 +0000
                Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 21:01 +0200
                Re: RCS messaging Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-04 12:02 +0000
        Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-03 09:11 +0100
          Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 13:34 +0200
          Re: RCS messaging Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-03 12:38 +0100
            Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-03 13:05 +0100
        Re: RCS messaging micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 06:32 -0400
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  Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-01 23:32 +0200
    Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-01 23:36 +0200
      Re: RCS messaging Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-18 11:48 +0200
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        Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-19 09:38 +0200
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        Re: RCS messaging Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-05 23:08 +0100
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        Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-06 08:56 +0200
        Re: RCS messaging Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-06 09:39 +0200
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  Re: RCS messaging Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-04 09:02 +0200
    Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-04 13:02 +0200
      Re: RCS messaging Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-06 13:26 +0200
        Re: RCS messaging Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-06 13:28 +0200
          Re: RCS messaging "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-06 13:47 +0200
    Re: RCS messaging Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-04 09:08 -0700
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