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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Date | 2025-03-05 02:59 +0000 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <vq8elp$q3f$1@reader1.panix.com> (permalink) |
| References | <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <vB5xP.126521$eNx6.22176@fx14.iad> <vq2scj$144$1@reader1.panix.com> <vq7lan$1h28q$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
In article <vq7lan$1h28q$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Waldek Hebisch <antispam@fricas.org> wrote: >In alt.folklore.computers Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote: >> In article <vB5xP.126521$eNx6.22176@fx14.iad>, >> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>>[snip] >>>Oh, and anyone who modifies code without updating the >>>corresponding comments to reflect the change deserves >>>some sort of nasty punishment. Maybe we can make them >>>maintain any other programs whose comments have become >>>outdated and misleading. >> >> John Ousterhout recently published the contents of a written >> "debate" he had with Robert C Martin that went into this at some >> length. With the caveat that I think Martin is a charlatan, >> folks here might find it interesting and relevant. >> >> https://github.com/johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-code/blob/main/README.md > >I read large part of this tekst. I fully agree with John's >critique of decomposed PrimeGenerator. Personally I find >the Knuth-based pre-decomposed version the clearest one: >- it is obviously correct once one gets loop invariants >- it is compact enough that loop invariants can be easily guessed. > >I was able to understand this version in few minutes. Reference >to Knuth helped, because first (decomposed) version looked like >a monster which raised serious doubts about correctness and >efficiency, Knuth name assured me that this may be worth looking at. >I have some interest in generating primes and it is possible that >I saw this method before. Certainly I did not remember it. In fact, the problems with Martin's version were even worse than what John pointed out; a few I found, others I saw on reddit or hacker news. Briefly, Martin's program fails to check its input and will throw an exception due to an out-of-bounds array access for n<1. It will also do that for n<2, which means that his version cannot be used to return a list that contains only the first prime. Furthermore, in his relentless drive to decompose into arbitrarily smaller functions, he scatters state around a class, but he stores it in static class members, meaning that his implementation is not thread safe. Also, he stores the squares of primes into an array eagerly, as he finds each prime; but once primes exceed 2^16, this will overflow the value in his prime multiples array. In the original algorithm (acutally due to Dijkstra, not Knuth), they were only added to the prime multiples array when necessary. >So more remarks: testing divisibility only by numbers smaller or >equal to square root of candidate is standard obvious trick. >I it not clear how long it would take me to invent such thing, >but I saw it long ago and once I saw it it was obvious. > >I correctness of John's version is more tricky: we should >increase number of primes used for testing once candidate >becoms equal to square of next prime. John uses different >looking condition and gives no justification that it is >equivalent to the correct one. > >Part of the comment > >: // ..........................(all elements after this are greater >: // than our current candidate, so they don't need to be considered). > >is misleading: those elements are greater then _square root_ of >the candidate. Yes. John's version had some problems; not as many as Martin's version, but then again John is actually competent, while Martin is a charlatan and a blowhard. >Concerning comments I am mostly on Martin's side. More precisly, >interfaces should be precisely specified. In some cases (like >math problems) code implements "well known" functions and then >there is not much to say (but things like limitations on arguments >and precision should be spelled out). In other cases one needs >to define appropriate terms and give more detail. OTOH >implementation in many cases needs no comments. In other case >one may want rather extensive description of method/algrorithm/ >data structures. IMO extensive description if best provided >in a separate document. In case of standard algorithms one >can simply add reference to the literature. If something is >non-standard (new), then there should be a document describing >it. My point is that comment is not good place to put such >extensive description (for example there are typographic >restrictions) and, once person is familiar with the problem >large block of comments is only a distraction. Also, I have >much more faith in estabished texbook or paper in peer reviewed >journal, then in comments which frequently say a lot about >lack of understanding of person writnig the comment and only >a little about actual problem. There are cases when comments >are worthwile, but they are relatively infrequent. In particular >in modern times we have a lot of trivial code and when we >come to something nontrivial it is frequencly so complex that >one can not reasonably explain it in a comment. I came with a version that I liked somewhat better, and sent it along with a rather lengthy email to John's mailing list. No one has responded, however, so I fear it was not well received. - Dan C.
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Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 03:15 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 07:43 -0700
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:23 +0000
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:40 -0700
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 21:13 -0400
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 02:38 -0400
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-24 12:27 +0100
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 21:10 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Bob <bobv@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:44 +0000
Re: The Joy Of Python Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 00:42 +0000
Re: The Joy Of Python Bob <bobv@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2024-10-24 11:51 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:57 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-03 00:17 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-09-30 21:22 -0300
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:31 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:38 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:43 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:19 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-30 23:28 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:42 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 17:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-24 20:01 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 04:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 17:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-25 07:13 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-25 11:34 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:08 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-25 20:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-28 02:20 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 02:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 07:42 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 07:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-28 07:07 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-28 19:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:04 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-28 21:20 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:28 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:22 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:01 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 11:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:45 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 08:02 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:17 +0100
Re: The joy of ALGOL-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:25 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-04 03:49 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 03:51 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-04 17:07 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:26 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:11 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-30 16:51 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-30 20:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-30 19:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 16:53 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-02 15:33 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 22:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 16:39 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-01 23:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-02 15:39 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-02 20:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 23:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 17:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 17:41 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 21:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:14 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:06 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 02:57 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 08:34 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-28 15:17 -0700
7-bit encodings (was: Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 00:36 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:16 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 16:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:12 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-09-30 21:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:10 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-29 07:58 +0000
Into the woods of business Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 07:11 -0700
Re: Into the woods of business vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-29 20:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-10-01 03:52 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-01 15:49 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-10-01 18:04 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-02 03:12 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:27 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-09-30 12:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 14:26 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 19:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 18:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 17:40 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-24 20:22 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 21:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 22:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-24 17:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 01:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-25 15:40 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-25 16:59 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-25 10:45 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 13:21 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-09-24 17:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 22:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-09-25 13:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 15:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-24 19:55 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 02:42 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 06:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 07:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 23:16 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-26 16:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-27 11:32 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-27 12:10 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2024-09-27 11:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-28 09:33 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 09:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-29 09:19 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-29 11:23 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-29 10:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-29 16:47 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-29 10:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2024-10-08 19:53 -0600
Re: The joy of Python Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-09 05:46 +0000
Re: The joy of Python p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-09 07:12 +0000
Re: The joy of Python "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-09 09:27 +0100
Re: The joy of Python lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2024-10-09 21:42 -0600
Re: The joy of Python p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-10 04:39 +0000
Re: The joy of perl p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-09 14:01 +0000
Re: The joy of awk p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-09 15:32 +0000
Re: The joy of awk "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-11 09:25 +0100
Re: The joy of awk John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-11 07:55 -0700
Re: The joy of awk Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-11 17:59 +0000
Re: The joy of perl Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-10 07:48 +0000
Re: The joy of perl Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2024-10-10 13:21 +0100
Re: The joy of perl cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-10-10 12:49 +0000
Re: The joy of perl Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2024-10-10 15:24 +0100
Re: The joy of perl p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-10 20:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-09-27 22:00 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 20:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 01:19 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 02:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 06:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 07:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 22:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-05 23:20 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-06 16:06 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 03:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-20 00:13 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-20 06:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 07:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-20 07:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-20 19:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 21:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 01:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 03:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 06:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 08:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 07:55 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 20:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 15:16 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 23:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-22 00:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 01:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-22 04:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 04:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 09:59 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 20:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 14:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 22:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:33 +0300
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 06:45 +0300
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 02:03 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 06:36 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 03:11 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 20:50 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 21:23 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-25 17:32 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 22:41 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 21:58 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 02:40 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:02 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-26 16:35 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-26 16:52 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 05:53 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 07:18 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-28 08:04 -0700
Re: The joy of SQL Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-28 11:33 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-28 17:59 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-28 14:14 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-28 21:24 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-29 01:11 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-29 05:21 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-29 02:10 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:07 +0100
Re: The joy of SQL Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-10-26 16:44 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-26 18:48 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:52 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Mister Johnson <root@example.net> - 2024-10-27 13:00 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 13:30 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 17:40 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-27 18:38 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-28 02:42 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:32 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 17:35 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 05:39 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:08 +0100
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 18:01 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 20:26 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 21:40 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-10-24 14:52 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-24 14:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-25 19:55 +0300
Re: The joy of strong typing magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 10:56 +0300
Re: The joy of Python Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 20:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-24 17:13 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 03:24 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-22 16:07 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 23:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 08:04 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 20:57 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-23 23:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-24 17:13 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 01:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-25 01:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-25 17:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-25 17:16 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 22:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-25 22:59 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-26 09:10 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-26 12:35 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: Little old machines, The joy of FORTH (not) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-26 02:18 +0000
Re: Little old machines, The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-26 13:25 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-26 02:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:05 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-25 11:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-24 00:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 00:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 00:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 04:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 22:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-23 22:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 00:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 22:13 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 05:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 08:03 -0700
Re: The joy of Stick-shifts Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-10-24 23:04 +0000
Re: The joy of Stick-shifts Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2024-10-25 08:37 +0200
Re: The joy of Stick-shifts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-25 07:07 -0400
Re: The joy of Stick-shifts David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2024-10-25 13:14 +0100
Re: The joy of Stick-shifts Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2024-10-25 15:58 +0200
Re: The joy of Stick-shifts David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2024-10-25 15:41 +0100
Re: The joy of Stick-shifts scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-25 14:02 +0000
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