Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-)

From	Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-)
Date	2021-12-04 00:05 -0600
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On 12/3/2021 2:52 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> Function of Rearranging:
> 
> I think the best way to see the potential and therefore importance of 
> this function in our ACOB is to look at the nature! Observe what it 
> accomplished by _rearranging_ alone :-)
> 
> So there's merit to it of course. Now, who does that and who doesn't? 
> Hehe :) By now you should be a master of that. MH always does that! CH 
> is tied to dogmas and superstition and authority and the group he think 
> of himself to belong, so he is limited in rearranging things.
> 
> I go even farther to say CH cannot rearrange! Cause not only he doesn't 
> give himself permission to do it, he doesn't even think it is a useful 
> behavior. It means chopping up authority's view. It means chaos to him. 
> It means _departure_ from order and safety, so he actively avoids it. 
> That's why this Function isn't present in CH' ACOB.
> 
> Example 2: Copernicus
> 
> First of all take a look at his nose and face and discover he was MH, 
> not CH! Only then note how daring and creative he was in _rearranging_ 
> the system that everybody else believed in.
> 
> As far as I know his switching the roles of Sun and Earth was genuinely 
> his and reflects the awesome use of this function in him. His other 
> ideas that are usually attributed to him were not his of course (one was 
> Tusi's thesis, the other "Ebne Shater"s thesis). And like Newton, he 
> didn't feel the need to name them in his book about solar system. He 
> wouldn't mix up "humanities" with "science". He would NOT mix up physics 
> with history of physics. He was NOT a Cro-Magnon earlier man. He was 
> Modern Human.
> 
> Also note that his accomplishment was nothing other than rearranging. 
> All he did was to switch Sun's and Earth's roles in the solar system. 
> Nothing beyond that! This is the power Rearranging function can have :) 
> It is firmly seated inside ACOB.

Example 3: Watson's model

The correct structure of DNA was discovered mainly by _rearranging_ a 
crude yet realistically sized and constructed models of molecules 
involved! Have you read Watson's story of that? If you haven't, you need 
to first drop your pants, then proceed to finger yourself, then pull 
your stinking finger out, then pull your pants up, and then go fuck 
yourself. Yes you! I don't want anyone who has not read that book even 
take one look at what I write here. You wouldn't be in my league; in 
fact you would be a worm to me.

I and a bunch of friends from high school read that book in the summer 
before our first year of university began. 1972. We had all passed the 
mighty entrance exam already in April of that year and had had every fun 
in that summer one could imagine, including reading some of the best 
books ever written. This book was one of them for many of us because the 
subject of it pertained different disciplines. From my high school 
classmates who had passed entrance to medical schools, to those who were 
getting into physics (me and three others that I knew of) all the way to 
those who were getting in biology, chemistry, and even fine arts, this 
book was a jewel to all of us. One of our teachers in 12th grade had 
introduced it to us very soon after a nice Persian translation of it had 
hit the bookstores.

I don't know or remember about other students if they immediately began 
reading it, or like myself they left it to be done after university 
entrance exams in April were over. For me, I could not see anything 
before those exams and other ones were over. I had 12th grade's own 
mighty final exams in that tough high school to deal with, plus a 
general country wide exam to get my high school diploma, and then right 
after that the university entrance exams began for the coming Fall. But 
I'm sure some of the students in class began reading that book while in 
12th grade. But by mid summer almost all of us had already read the book 
and we discussed the hell out of it each time we met. There were no ends 
to the interesting points covered so skillfully by Watson. It was a 
jewel of a work, a jewel of disclosing a very exciting plot, a jewel of 
a frightening scientific struggle, and a jewel of a unique amazing 
scientific discovery. All in one. And still to this day I don't know how 
Watson could put it down that well. Scientists aren't necessarily 
writers, but this guy, Watson, was also a first rate writer. He was both 
in one.

I don't think we had anybody that Fall in university that had not read 
that book. And I'm sorry that Watson himself didn't make one nickle from 
all those copies sold in Tehran. Iran was not yet part of the nations 
who observed Copyright laws. Others copied Iranian sources freely and we 
copied theirs freely.

What led to that discovery was Watson's insistence on using realistic 
models of all these molecules no matter how crude, and rearranging them 
to see what fits in the first place! Makes sense, no? As far as I can 
remember (last time I read the book was in 1978 in English) he was the 
only one suggesting that avenue of approach against a whole fucking 
establishment consisting of various top universities that laughed at 
Watson's suggestion, thinking that "No we must first take care of the 
rigor before attending to use of models". I think it was a European vs 
American thing.

Watson discovered it before anyone else there in England because he was 
American. Americans place rigor as far as possible in later stages of 
work. They don't begin the work with it! Beginning the scientific work 
with rigor part is a French school of doing science, and perhaps Brits 
are like that also, I don't know anything about how physics or science 
is handled in Britain.

Watson needed little else :) See how correct logical approach works?

Rearranging did it. All the pieces were already there by Pauling's work 
and model of DNA. Watson rearranged Pauling's pieces until they fit 
perfectly together and distances and angles matched every data they had 
been able to gather about DNA. Hence the power in "rearranging" function 
in ACOB!

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