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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

From "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution
Date 2017-04-06 15:18 +0100
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:10:06 +0100, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On 2017-04-05 13:27, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On 04/05/2017 09:15 AM, Wolf K wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> "Invisible" is ambiguous: a)"not visible because of available light"; or
>>> b) "not visible because imaginary or hallucinatory". Your example
>>> conflates those two meanings, which it nonsensical.
>>>
>>
>> Something that is invisible isn't reflecting light.
>>
>> In your case "a" the thing isn't reflecting light because its in darkness.
>>
>> In your case "b" the thing isn't reflecting light because it isn't there
>> physically.
>>
>> You have added some reasons WHY something may not reflect light. It
>> still isn't reflecting light, which is what I said. WHY does not change
>> the fact that its invisible.
>
> It does, in a way that makes your claim below incorrect.
>
>> A unicorn that is invisible can not be pink. "pink" refers to the light
>> coming from it, which doesn't exist for something that's invisible (and
>> the cause of that invisibility is irrelevant to that).
>
> It sure can. Just imagine a pink unicorn. :-)
>
> Actually, colour as a perception is one thing, colour as a property of
> an electromagnetic wave (or mix of waves) is another. The former is the
> result of the brain's processing of the data sent from the retina. The
> latter is usually measured in degrees Kelvin. The same patch of
> reflected light can be (usually will be) perceived as different colours
> depending on what surrounds it, and/or on the ambient light.
>
> Here are three of many sites that show you why you can't trust your eyes
> when it comes to the colour of a unicorn, real or imagined:
>
> http://nerdist.com/5-optical-illusions-that-show-you-why-your-brain-messes-with-the-dress/
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/27/12-fascinating-optical-illusions-show-how-color-can-trick-the-eye/?utm_term=.d6fad26f204a
>
> https://www.echalk.co.uk/amusements/OpticalIllusions/colourPerception/colourPerception.html
>
> Colour is what you think you see.

Or in the case of the famous dress (not in your links, but I thought that's what you were referring to) the settings on the camera, particularly white balance.

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-05 10:15 -0400
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-05 12:27 -0500
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 10:33 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-05 22:10 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 19:21 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-05 22:42 -0400
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 19:50 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 10:04 -0400
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-05 23:07 -0500
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 10:27 -0400
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 15:44 +0100
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-06 10:52 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-06 15:31 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-06 16:43 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 20:08 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-07 08:17 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-07 21:43 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-08 08:53 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-08 14:42 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-08 19:54 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-08 16:59 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-08 17:04 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-08 17:11 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-08 17:12 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-08 17:22 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-08 17:25 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-09 12:14 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-08 17:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-08 17:37 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-09 08:27 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-09 15:28 +0000
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-08 21:30 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-08 19:44 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-08 23:16 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-09 12:02 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-09 09:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-07 00:34 -0500
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-04-06 12:09 -0500
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-06 10:55 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-06 11:53 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-06 16:45 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-06 17:37 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-07 08:12 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 08:41 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-07 11:51 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 15:32 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 15:18 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 15:18 +0100
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 11:01 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 16:06 +0100
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 11:24 -0400
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 16:38 +0100

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