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Re: Quantum Computers

From Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Quantum Computers
Date 2015-07-09 22:37 -0400
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On 09/07/2015 8:27 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
>
> When he first showed up, I pointed out the blatant fallacies in his
> rhetoric.  He's too much of a zealot to listen to reason and thus
> he ended up in my kill file.
>
> You've had a couple of go-arounds with him.
> Do you think he's listening or is he just taking everything you say
> as an excuse to spew more idiocy?
>
> Put him in your kill file.  You'll be happier as will the rest of us.
>

My old high school motto was a not very original "facta non verba"
Two of the most devoted religious people I have ever met expressed their 
beliefs by what they did. One is a mennonite friend (he dropped in to 
say hello as recently as a couple days ago) he packed his tools
and went to Nigeria built a school and taught basic education to 
students of all faiths. I very much doubt that he ever expressed any
religious dogma to those that benefited from his work. I have known him 
for a couple decades as a neighbor. He certainly has never mentioned
beliefs but he has expressed various ways the world could be a better
place mostly with personal active intervention.

The other person was a monk in Osaka Japan that I saw almost daily for a 
few months. He was hard working dealing with many local social issues. 
He knew how to make things happen that were needed. Mostly through the 
sheer force of a quiet polite personality. I had a beer with him a 
couple times waiting for a late night commuter trains something that 
didn't seem strange with him.

If Mr. Hodgin really wants to get his message out try demonstrating it 
with his behavior, his plea bargain approach to personal responsibility 
reflects his moral compass.

w..

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Quantum Computers Neo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 07:09 -0700
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 07:28 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 14:58 +0000
      Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 11:10 -0400
        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 08:43 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2015-06-26 12:47 -0400
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 10:19 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:53 +1000
              Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:15 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:17 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 22:01 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 13:54 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 15:03 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 15:40 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-06-27 10:05 -0500
                Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 18:47 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-04 13:03 +0100
            Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 20:17 +0000
              Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 21:40 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:19 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-06-27 00:21 +0200
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:34 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:14 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 22:38 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 15:47 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 17:56 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 15:46 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-05 16:37 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 10:35 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-05 21:12 +0200
          Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 17:50 +0100
            Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:56 +1000
              Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:16 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:16 +1000
            Re: Quantum Computers Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-06-26 22:20 +0000
          Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 13:56 -0400
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:08 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-26 11:10 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:15 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:26 -0400
              Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:25 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 12:31 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 21:42 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-06-27 18:18 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-27 14:45 -0500
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 14:41 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 22:43 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:09 +0100
            Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-26 13:48 -0500
              Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:27 -0400
    Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 17:49 +0100
      Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 14:02 -0400
        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:13 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-06-26 14:36 -0500
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 12:42 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 17:49 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 14:59 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:14 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 18:28 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 15:35 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 20:14 -0400
            Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-06-27 06:46 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 07:05 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 15:27 +0100
          Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 20:17 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 13:26 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:13 +0100
      Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:55 +1000
      Re: Quantum Computers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-06-30 01:35 -0700
        Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-30 10:00 +0100
        Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-30 09:45 -0500
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 07:14 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-06-28 15:29 +0000
      Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-06-28 16:02 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-28 21:55 +0000
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 17:10 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 04:07 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 11:19 +0000
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 04:30 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:00 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 05:04 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:48 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 07:04 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 16:59 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 10:56 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:04 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:13 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:16 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:23 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:42 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:59 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 09:20 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:28 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 12:48 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 09:57 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 13:10 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-06-29 13:39 -0500
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 15:07 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 20:30 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:55 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-06-30 16:12 -0500
              Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 12:58 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 12:45 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:50 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 14:45 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:01 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-06-30 04:58 +1000
              Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 09:28 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 14:36 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 10:27 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:00 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 13:28 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 12:05 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 08:45 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-30 14:52 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 11:16 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 05:23 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 17:31 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:55 +0000
              Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 05:02 +1000
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 13:28 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-06-28 20:39 +0000
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 09:31 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-06-30 19:18 +0200
      Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 13:56 -0400
      Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-06-30 14:21 -0500
        Re: Quantum Computers greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-07-01 12:06 +0000
          Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-07-01 14:49 +0100
            Re: Quantum Computers Ibmekon - 2015-07-01 20:25 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-07-02 03:32 -0300
                Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-02 18:04 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-03 12:24 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-03 15:27 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-04 11:41 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-07-05 07:21 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 04:57 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers davidmylastname@acm.org (David Griffith) - 2015-07-04 20:37 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 13:10 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-05 13:49 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 04:58 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-08 08:14 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2015-07-08 13:44 -0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2015-07-08 13:39 -0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-09 07:41 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-09 10:46 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2015-07-12 10:22 -0600
                Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-05 15:15 +0100
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 06:46 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-08 10:26 -0400
    Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-08 18:13 -0700
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 08:34 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-09 17:15 +0000
      Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-07-09 17:25 +0000
      Re: Quantum Computers Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2015-07-12 10:23 -0600
        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 09:33 -0700
        Re: Quantum Computers "Hank" <hfd543@nospam.com> - 2015-07-13 05:39 +1000
        Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-12 15:20 -0500
          Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-12 22:34 -0700
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 10:35 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 20:05 +0200
      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 11:15 -0700
        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 11:19 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 12:35 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 23:26 +0200
              Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-09 20:27 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 00:29 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-09 21:36 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-07-10 16:26 -0300
                Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-09 22:37 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-10 13:04 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-07-10 14:37 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-07-10 15:32 -0500
        Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 21:00 +0200
        Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 00:27 +0000
  Re: Quantum Computers Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-10 00:33 +0100
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 11:06 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-11 07:00 +0100
    Re: Quantum Computers I. Ben Hib Mortise <invalid@invalid.org> - 2015-07-11 18:31 +0000
      Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-12 12:53 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 05:43 +1000
        Re: Quantum Computers I. Ben Hib Mortise <invalid@invalid.org> - 2015-07-13 05:52 +0000
          Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-14 12:07 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 02:52 -0700
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 05:39 -0700
  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 08:10 -0700
  Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-20 23:20 -0500
  Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-22 07:47 +0100

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