Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective

From	Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective
Date	2015-12-07 16:10 -0700
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On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:27 PM,  <villascape@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you all!
>
> Okay, the concept of a WSGI along with a framework provides insight on my main questions.
>
> In regards to Chris's statement: "It openly and honestly does NOT reset its state between page requests"
>
> With PHP, I have sessions to preserve state.  I have a feeling that this is significantly different.  Yes?  How?  Does this somehow relate to how websockets are implemented?

Session state is different from process state. Whether you start a new
process for each request or reuse an existing process has no bearing
on whether you're storing and reading data related to the user's
session (except that in the reuse case it's possible to cache the data
in-process, whereas an in-memory cache for a restarted process must be
in a separate process; but it's good practice to have your in-memory
cache in a separate process anyway).

I'm not sure where websockets come into this, as that's a completely
separate technology that is not used by most web apps.

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Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective villascape@gmail.com - 2015-12-07 13:07 -0800
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective villascape@gmail.com - 2015-12-07 13:21 -0800
    Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 09:00 +1100
      Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective villascape@gmail.com - 2015-12-07 14:27 -0800
        Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 10:09 +1100
          Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective villascape@gmail.com - 2015-12-07 17:00 -0800
            Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 14:26 +1100
        Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 16:10 -0700
        Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2015-12-08 10:07 +1100
        Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2015-12-07 21:11 -0600
        Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 14:47 +1100
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2015-12-08 08:33 +1100
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 14:37 -0700
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 08:40 +1100
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-12-07 16:53 -0500
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 14:59 -0700
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 09:03 +1100
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2015-12-07 16:28 -0600
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective villascape@gmail.com - 2015-12-07 20:11 -0800
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2015-12-08 10:24 +0100
  Re: Understanding Python from a PHP coder's perspective Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 20:40 +1100

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