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Re: Something C might need

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Something C might need
Date 2017-09-24 12:03 -0700
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David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> writes:
[...]

> The standard (C89 if they differ) allows the integer types to have
> a wide variety of implementations. I am proposing one possible
> system of implementations. I believe I have not proposed anything 
> the standards forbid. And I offered a reason - which I feel is the
> most natural one - for why I made such a proposal. 

You have proposed eliminating long long, which is of course forbidden
by C99 and C11 (which replaced C89/C90).

And you have said you "insist" on "long" meaning twice and "short"
meaning half.  If you meant that that's your personal preference,
you should have said so.

> How and why all the other current ways to handle the integer types
> were proposed is relevant only in comparison with my proposal.
>
> And I do not assume the standard library. In the sense that I do
> not treat it as in any way privileged or a priori obvious. But it
> is available as any other library might be. "stdio" is very
> useful. 

The standard library is an integral part of the C standard (though
freestanding implementations are not required to provide most of it).

What is the intended context for your proposal?  Do you want all
implementations to support it?  Do you want it to be required by a
future standard?

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 20:50 -0700
  Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-22 01:15 -0500
    Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-22 01:21 -0500
  Re: Something C might need fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 00:44 -0700
  Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-22 11:02 +0200
    Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-22 12:35 -0500
      Re: Something C might need Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-09-22 13:46 -0400
        Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 11:47 -0700
          Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-22 12:16 -0700
          Re: Something C might need Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-09-22 18:10 -0400
            Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-22 15:24 -0700
              Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-22 15:52 -0700
              Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-23 12:29 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-23 08:29 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-23 18:06 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-24 12:28 +0200
            Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 16:17 -0700
              Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-22 18:20 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 22:45 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-23 12:22 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-23 11:29 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-23 10:25 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-09-24 22:09 +0800
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 15:32 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 13:17 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 21:53 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 14:54 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 23:10 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 16:14 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-25 01:04 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 17:23 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 08:48 +0200
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:50 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 21:59 +0200
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 14:25 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-26 09:39 +0200
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 11:50 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-25 15:44 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-24 18:57 -0400
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-25 00:08 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-24 20:51 -0400
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-25 02:10 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-24 22:22 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 06:35 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 16:16 +0200
                Re: Something C might need Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 07:47 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 13:38 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-24 23:29 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-25 17:40 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-24 23:30 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-25 08:58 -0400
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-23 08:41 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-23 17:32 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-23 11:32 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2017-09-25 14:43 +0000
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 22:07 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-25 13:34 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 10:04 +1300
                Re: Something C might need Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2017-09-26 14:31 +0000
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 08:38 +1300
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-23 17:49 -0700
                Re: Something C might need gordonb.w32iq@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-09-23 21:21 -0500
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 11:27 -0700
                Re: Something C might need gordonb.woyvd@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-09-25 01:08 -0500
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-25 09:38 -0700
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-25 10:00 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-23 11:32 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:29 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-23 20:38 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 15:25 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-09-23 20:36 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 01:42 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-23 18:03 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 22:47 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 12:03 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:10 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 16:20 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 16:44 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:00 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 16:51 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:11 +0200
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:04 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-23 22:10 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 10:19 +1300
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 01:38 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 02:14 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-23 18:41 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 11:16 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 11:41 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 12:15 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 12:23 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-24 14:03 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 13:59 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 16:08 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-24 21:50 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 21:40 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:28 +0200
                Re: Something C might need luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 06:28 -0700
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-26 07:47 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-27 08:26 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-27 07:22 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-27 09:01 -0700
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-27 09:42 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-28 10:42 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-27 19:22 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-28 10:48 +0200
                Re: Something C might need scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-09-28 17:31 +0000
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 22:09 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 22:44 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-25 01:57 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-25 02:02 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 19:10 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-27 16:27 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 09:26 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-28 10:53 +0200
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-27 19:20 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-27 11:44 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-28 10:57 +0200
                Re: Something C might need James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-24 14:49 -0400
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-24 22:06 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 20:09 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 12:12 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 20:46 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:41 +0200
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 21:05 +0100
                Re: Something C might need gordonb.r273i@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-09-23 21:34 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 09:01 +0100
      Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-24 19:34 +0200
        Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-24 23:53 -0500
          Re: Something C might need "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-25 12:27 -0400
            Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-25 20:33 +0200
              Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-25 15:52 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-25 23:23 +0200
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-25 15:15 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-25 17:49 -0500
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-26 09:46 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-26 07:32 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-26 14:32 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-26 22:34 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-26 14:39 -0700
            Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-25 19:38 +0100
              Re: Something C might need "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-25 15:00 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-25 12:29 -0700
              Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 22:12 +0200
  Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-22 11:38 +0100
    Re: Something C might need Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 04:21 -0700
    Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-22 14:54 +0200
    Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-22 08:02 -0700
  Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 06:49 -0700
    Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-22 20:24 +0100
      Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 12:45 -0700
        Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 09:00 +1200
          Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 17:34 -0400
            Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 10:49 +1200
              Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 19:25 -0400
              Re: Something C might need "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-22 19:35 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 11:52 +1200
                Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 18:25 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 13:36 +1200
                Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 20:20 -0700
                Rick says C is a dying language.  (Was: Something C might need) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-09-23 09:15 +0000
                Re: Rick says C is a dying language.  (Was: Something C might need) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 04:40 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-23 13:00 +0100
                Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 10:28 -0400
                Re: Something C might need James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-22 23:22 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 18:01 +1200
              Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-22 20:31 -0400
            Re: Something C might need jladasky@itu.edu - 2017-09-22 16:27 -0700
              Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 16:34 -0700
            Re: Something C might need scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-09-26 21:44 +0000
              Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 14:53 -0700
        Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-23 02:14 +0100
    Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-22 21:31 +0100
      Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-22 14:02 -0700
      Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 17:29 -0400
  Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-22 09:12 -0700

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