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Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals?

From	Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals?
Date	2023-03-09 18:08 +0100
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On 2023-03-09 16:50:29 +0000, JanPB said:

> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:41:41â€¯AM UTC-8, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-03-09 11:44:38 +0000, Pentcho (liar by omission) Valev said:>> 
>> > Below John Norton exposes theoretical physicists ("later writers") 
>> as> > deliberate liars. They use the Michelson-Morley experiment "as 
>> support> > for the light postulate of special relativity", knowing that 
>> this> > experiment is "fully compatible with an emission theory of 
>> light that> > contradicts the light postulate":> >> > John Norton: "In 
>> addition to his work as editor of the Einstein papers> > in finding 
>> source material, Stachel
>> I've commented before that your evocation of Stachel is thoroughly> 
>> dishonest, but you just ignore it and continue to imply that Stachel> 
>> was on your side.
> 
> That's what Pentcho has been doing for 3 decades now. He is yet
> another monomaniac with two obsessions: relativity theory and
> a perpetual motion machine construction.
> 
> It's also very characteristic that the links he posts frequently
> contradict his claims. He simply does not read them, only
> quickly scans the headlines and runs to the keyboard.

That's my impression. The link to Stachel is the only one I've bothered 
to follow in a serious way. That's why it's usually the one I refer to. 
Pentcho simply omits the part where Stachel explains that what he said 
in the previous paragraph that Pentcho likes needed to be thought about 
more detail.
> 
> I pity the guy, such a waste of life.

I don't know what Pentcho said about relativity three decades ago, but 
I did follow his views on the 2nd law of thermodynamics. What is sad is 
that at that time he did make an effort to discuss things with his 
critics, and even briefly recognized that he was wrong about something. 
Now all that is gone: he makes no attempt to engage with his critics.


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2023-03-09 03:44 -0800
  Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 04:40 -0800
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 14:53 +0100
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 06:11 -0800
        Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 15:29 +0100
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-03-09 15:20 +0100
        Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 06:38 -0800
          Odious kapo Richard Hertz at work "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 06:43 -0800
        Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 15:59 +0100
          Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 07:22 -0800
          Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2023-03-09 10:36 -0800
            Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 20:36 +0100
          Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-03-09 19:52 +0100
          Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-03-09 11:00 -0800
            Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 20:41 +0100
              Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-03-09 20:52 +0100
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-09 14:35 -0500
  Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 14:41 +0100
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 06:21 -0800
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 08:50 -0800
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 18:08 +0100
  Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-09 13:24 -0800
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-09 21:59 -0800
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-03-10 11:24 -0600
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-10 10:55 -0800
  Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-09 14:17 -0800
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 07:42 -0800
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 07:57 -0800
  Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2023-03-10 02:36 -0800
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 04:41 -0800
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 05:06 -0800
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 07:22 -0800
    Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2023-03-10 08:31 -0800
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 18:10 +0100
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 09:34 -0800
        Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 09:39 -0800
          Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 09:55 -0800
            Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 10:17 -0800
              Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 10:28 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 11:15 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 11:37 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 11:53 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 12:14 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 12:32 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 13:12 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 13:25 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 13:36 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 13:46 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 13:48 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 14:06 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 14:38 -0800
                Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-10 15:02 -0800
              Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 10:34 -0800
              Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 10:37 -0800
              Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 10:42 -0800
              Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 11:09 -0800
          Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 10:11 -0800
      Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2023-03-10 15:19 -0800
        Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? John-Erik Persson <john.erik.persson@gmail.com> - 2023-03-11 03:10 -0800
  Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 07:30 -0800
  Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 07:43 -0800
  Re: Are Theoretical Physicists Criminals? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-10 13:17 -0800

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