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Re: Something C might need

From Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Something C might need
Date 2017-09-23 10:49 +1200
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On 09/23/17 09:34 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 09/22/2017 05:00 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 09/23/17 07:45 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>
>>> You are exerting efforts toward ruining the advancement of this
>>> dying language, and I find it absolutely deplorable behavior, Ben,
>>> both then in 2014-2016 and now.
>>
>> Which dying language would that be?  I can see an elderly but healthy
>> one and a pipe dream....
>
> I think you use Solaris, so you might not be able to see graphics in
> your web browser LOL, but if you look at the graph in this page:
>
>       https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
>
> ....you'll see C and Java both descending rapidly from 2014 at around
> 18% or so, through until the present time, dropping down to about 8%
> or so as many other new languages are coming up, those which offer
> easier syntax than C, and less restrictions on data processing than
> Java.

At first glance, the maths in those tables doesn't add up with a 15% net 
drop in the top 20 languages..

> There is too much computing power available to make C worth coding
> for in most cases anymore.  If it wants to survive, it needs to
> get with the times and implement some compiler features that may
> take longer to compile, but provide developer with time-saving
> additions.

One quote of note on that page is "Applications that are written in a 
single programming language are getting rarer nowadays." which is very 
true.  Each language has it's niche on a big project, so there's no need 
for any one language to provide the kitchen sink.  Contemporary software 
projects are more akin to UNIX, with many small parts making up the 
whole, than the monolithic Windows world view!

-- 
Ian

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Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 20:50 -0700
  Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-22 01:15 -0500
    Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-22 01:21 -0500
  Re: Something C might need fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 00:44 -0700
  Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-22 11:02 +0200
    Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-22 12:35 -0500
      Re: Something C might need Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-09-22 13:46 -0400
        Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 11:47 -0700
          Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-22 12:16 -0700
          Re: Something C might need Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-09-22 18:10 -0400
            Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-22 15:24 -0700
              Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-22 15:52 -0700
              Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-23 12:29 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-23 08:29 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-23 18:06 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-24 12:28 +0200
            Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 16:17 -0700
              Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-22 18:20 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 22:45 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-23 12:22 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-23 11:29 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-23 10:25 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-09-24 22:09 +0800
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 15:32 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 13:17 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 21:53 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 14:54 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 23:10 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 16:14 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-25 01:04 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 17:23 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 08:48 +0200
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:50 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 21:59 +0200
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 14:25 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-26 09:39 +0200
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 11:50 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-25 15:44 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-24 18:57 -0400
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-25 00:08 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-24 20:51 -0400
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-25 02:10 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-24 22:22 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 06:35 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 16:16 +0200
                Re: Something C might need Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 07:47 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 13:38 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-24 23:29 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-25 17:40 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-24 23:30 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-25 08:58 -0400
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-23 08:41 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-23 17:32 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-23 11:32 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2017-09-25 14:43 +0000
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 22:07 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-25 13:34 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 10:04 +1300
                Re: Something C might need Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2017-09-26 14:31 +0000
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 08:38 +1300
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-23 17:49 -0700
                Re: Something C might need gordonb.w32iq@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-09-23 21:21 -0500
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 11:27 -0700
                Re: Something C might need gordonb.woyvd@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-09-25 01:08 -0500
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-25 09:38 -0700
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-25 10:00 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-23 11:32 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:29 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-23 20:38 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 15:25 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-09-23 20:36 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 01:42 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-23 18:03 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 22:47 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 12:03 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:10 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 16:20 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 16:44 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:00 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-24 16:51 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:11 +0200
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:04 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-23 22:10 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 10:19 +1300
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 01:38 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 02:14 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-23 18:41 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 11:16 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 11:41 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 12:15 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 12:23 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-24 14:03 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 13:59 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 16:08 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-24 21:50 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 21:40 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:28 +0200
                Re: Something C might need luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 06:28 -0700
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-26 07:47 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-27 08:26 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-27 07:22 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-27 09:01 -0700
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-27 09:42 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-28 10:42 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-27 19:22 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-28 10:48 +0200
                Re: Something C might need scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-09-28 17:31 +0000
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 22:09 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 22:44 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-25 01:57 +0100
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-25 02:02 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 19:10 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-27 16:27 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 09:26 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-28 10:53 +0200
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-27 19:20 +0100
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-27 11:44 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-28 10:57 +0200
                Re: Something C might need James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-24 14:49 -0400
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-24 22:06 +0200
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 20:09 +0100
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-24 12:12 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-24 20:46 +0100
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 09:41 +0200
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 21:05 +0100
                Re: Something C might need gordonb.r273i@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-09-23 21:34 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-24 09:01 +0100
      Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-24 19:34 +0200
        Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-24 23:53 -0500
          Re: Something C might need "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-25 12:27 -0400
            Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-25 20:33 +0200
              Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-25 15:52 -0500
                Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-25 23:23 +0200
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-25 15:15 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-25 17:49 -0500
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-26 09:46 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-26 07:32 -0700
                Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-26 14:32 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-09-26 22:34 +0200
                Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-26 14:39 -0700
            Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-25 19:38 +0100
              Re: Something C might need "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-25 15:00 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-25 12:29 -0700
              Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-25 22:12 +0200
  Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-22 11:38 +0100
    Re: Something C might need Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 04:21 -0700
    Re: Something C might need David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-09-22 14:54 +0200
    Re: Something C might need Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-09-22 08:02 -0700
  Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 06:49 -0700
    Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-22 20:24 +0100
      Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 12:45 -0700
        Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 09:00 +1200
          Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 17:34 -0400
            Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 10:49 +1200
              Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 19:25 -0400
              Re: Something C might need "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-22 19:35 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 11:52 +1200
                Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 18:25 -0700
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 13:36 +1200
                Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 20:20 -0700
                Rick says C is a dying language.  (Was: Something C might need) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-09-23 09:15 +0000
                Re: Rick says C is a dying language.  (Was: Something C might need) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 04:40 -0700
                Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-23 13:00 +0100
                Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 10:28 -0400
                Re: Something C might need James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-09-22 23:22 -0400
                Re: Something C might need Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 18:01 +1200
              Re: Something C might need Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-09-22 20:31 -0400
            Re: Something C might need jladasky@itu.edu - 2017-09-22 16:27 -0700
              Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 16:34 -0700
            Re: Something C might need scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-09-26 21:44 +0000
              Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 14:53 -0700
        Re: Something C might need Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-09-23 02:14 +0100
    Re: Something C might need bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-09-22 21:31 +0100
      Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-22 14:02 -0700
      Re: Something C might need "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 17:29 -0400
  Re: Something C might need supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-09-22 09:12 -0700

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