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Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta
Date 2017-02-13 22:25 +0000
Message-ID <egeq2aF9v9sU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> 
> In article <egel2vF8t90U1@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger  <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2017-02-13, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just looked at the test conversion I did with Eudora Mail Cleaner
>>> a couple of years ago. The Outgoing folder has no attachments. That
>>> makes sense, because Eudora grabs the attachment on the fly as it
>>> sends the mail; it doesn't store a copy of the attachment anywhere.
>>> 
>>> Incoming messages have paper-clip images in the summary window, but
>>> when I look at an individual message, it says "missing attachment."
>> 
>> That's very undesirable. A good e-mail client will preserve the entire
>> message, including all parts (plain text, rich text, attachments, etc).
> 
> JR, you apparently didn't notice that I was talking about a problem
> that occurred when I ran *Eudora Mailbox Cleaner*, a completely separate 
> program from Eudora that was created by a Eudora user some years ago, not 
> by Qualcomm.  Eudora knows exactly where those attachments are and displays 
> them just fine. 
> 
> You also clipped the rest of my message where I explained why that
> probably happened. I don't think EMC was at fault, either, because 
> I use a *nonstandard* folder for incoming attachments. That's why I 
> asked whether anyone had done the conversion with the proper folder 
> structure and found that to work okay. I'm guessing that if I move 
> the attachments where Eudora Mailbox Cleaner expects to find them, 
> all will be well.
> 
> I'm not going to claim that Eudora is perfect, but there's no reason
> to criticize it in this situation.

If Eudora had kept the original unmodified message, there would be no need
for Eudora Mailbox Cleaner. Keep in mind it is Eudora that mangled the
messages in the first place. In their default original state, messages
contain all parts (plain text, rich text, attachments, and headers) as a
monolithic block of text. That's what gets sent to the server and then
received by e-mail clients. A well-behaved client will store incoming and
outgoing messages in their original unmodified form (all message parts are
included in the message, nothing is modified) which is how Apple Mail and
other more modern clients behave. 

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JR

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Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-02-13 20:48 +0000
  Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-13 21:00 +0000
    Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-02-13 21:14 +0000
      Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-13 22:25 +0000
        Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-02-14 07:36 +0000
          Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2017-02-14 08:55 -0800
            Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-14 17:22 +0000
              Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-14 17:46 +0000
                Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-14 18:20 +0000
                Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-14 18:56 +0000
                Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-14 19:12 +0000
          Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-14 17:16 +0000
          Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-02-14 12:54 -0500
            Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-14 18:10 +0000
            Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-14 18:20 +0000
              Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-02-14 13:36 -0500
  Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-02-16 12:05 +0000
    Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-02-16 11:45 -0500
      Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-16 17:51 +0000
        Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-16 18:56 +0000
          Re: Preparing for losing Rosetta Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-02-20 22:43 +0000

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