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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote
>> F Murtz wrote
>>> Brian Gaff wrote

>>>> Well yes if you claim for the postage as well, which is what I'd have 
>>>> done.

>>> This is similar same seller .
>>> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-3-LCD-Screen-Car-Rearview-Headrest-Mirror-
>>> Monitor-For-Car-Reversing-Camera-FB-/182066926897?hash=item2a6408d531:g
>>> :gswAAOSwQjNW9XIU

>>> http://tinyurl.com/zug758n

>>> It has a bit I did not see originally
>>> 30 days money back if you pay postage,

>> lesson 1: read the refund conditions before you buy

> And you'll often have a hard time finding items that don't carry a
> similar refund conditions statement. Aliexpress is another option
> though, and in theory safer as the seller doesn't get your money
> until you say the item has arrived in good condition.

Only in theory. I got a neckband headset that way, it never worked.
The seller refused to do anything about it, refused to extend the
deadline for when the transaction automatically completed, got
the money anyway.

>>> so I was stuffed from the beginning but he should have sent
>>> me a new one but wanted me to return old broken one first
>>> even though he could see the damage from my photos.

>> lesson 2: check the feedback. (98.2%) eg;

>> "They sold me a FAULTY item and Im having a really hard time on getting a 
>> refund"

>> "Horrible customer service, rude & demanding. Misleading listing
>> regarding light"

>> "The item arrived but don't working. Sell don't refund when I was return 
>> item"

>> etc.,

>> never buy from a seller with less then 99%

> If a seller sells some junk and people buy it anyway, then leave
> negative feedback, that doesn't mean that the service is particularly
> bad. If you are intent on buying a particular model of device from
> _someone_, then complaints relating to the condition of other
> items are irrelevent as those devices they relate to may have
> been a flawed design regardless of the seller.

But the feedback is relevant when they refused to provide a refund
when what was bought never did what it was claimed to do.

> In any case these Chinese sellers always seem to have multiple Ebay
> IDs. It takes some time, but you can see almost definitive proof if you
> watch listings closely enough. If you ask questions or make offers via
> Email/ebay messages, it becomes far more obvious (though I haven't
> had someone say it directly yet). They just play the odds with feedback,
> so some of their IDs will have better scores than others.

One chinese person I know very well indeed refuses to have anything
to do with any operation that has any chinese involved in the business.
Even when its an operation like mobileciti etc.
 

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Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-19 22:44 +1000
  Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. "Phi" <phister@inbox.com> - 2016-08-19 13:57 +0100
    Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-19 23:13 +1000
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        Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-20 00:15 +1000
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      Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-19 16:18 +0100
  Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 15:41 +0100
    Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-20 01:56 +1000
      Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-19 17:03 +0100
      Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-08-20 23:51 +0000
        Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-22 01:30 +1000
      Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-08-21 11:46 +1000
        Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-08-21 23:24 +0000
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            Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-08-22 22:40 +0000
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              Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:32 +1000
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    Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-20 11:32 +1000
  Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. Jeßus <j@j.j> - 2016-08-20 06:42 +1000
  Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-08-20 10:58 +1000
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        Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-08-21 11:51 +1000
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        Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-20 06:51 +0100
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      Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-08-20 13:06 +1000
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    Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-08-21 23:28 +0000
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