Re: Supermarkets lose billions from self serve checkouts

From	felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.tv, aus.politics, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Supermarkets lose billions from self serve checkouts
Date	2016-07-26 11:54 +1000
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On 26-July-2016 5:28 AM, BruceS wrote:
> On 07/22/2016 08:04 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 23-July-2016 12:46 AM, BruceS wrote:
>>> On 07/22/2016 03:26 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:dvdvqiFj424U2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 22-July-2016 5:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Jeßus <j@j.j> wrote
>>>>>>> Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The supermarket pricks deserve to get ripped off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wholly deserving of it (Woolworths and Coles). The way they rip
>>>>>>> off small manufacturers, dairy producers, and nearby competitors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The scumbags wanted to save money by not paying any wages
>>>>>>>> and denying people a job by using the self service machines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I absolutely refuse to use the self service in a
>>>>>>>> supermarket as it takes away a job from  someone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agreed. From what I have seen, they're a real PITA to use anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like hell they are. They work fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> so you'd rather interact with a machine than a person.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Works much better than the checkout monkeys.
>>>
>>> When I have few enough items, I always look first for an open
>>> self-check.  They're far faster to use, and I don't have to worry about
>>> the cashier entering the wrong code for produce and overcharging.
>>> These stations work so well, and so reliably, that on the rare occasion
>>> that there's a problem it's very annoying.  Of course they then have
>>> the one cashier who oversees six to twelve stations come over and take
>>> care of it.  As unskilled workers continue to demand higher pay (well
>>> beyond their time's worth) and automated systems continue to get
>>> cheaper and better, we'll see more low-skill jobs replaced by machines.
>>
>> ppl are systematically being replaced by machines, that's for sure.. "In
>> a few words, what is the reason for your call today?"
>>
>>>
>>>> When Telecom first did their new system that allowed you
>>>> to pay your bill with an automated system at their end, it
>>>> got so overloaded initially that when I tried to use it it fell
>>>> back to the usual call center monkey. She was pretty pissed
>>>> when I said I wanted to use the new automated system.
>>>>
>>>> I actually automated my end so my machine talked to theirs.
>>>>
>>>>> that's sad.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so desperate that I need to talk to checkout monkeys.
>>>
>>> While I don't agree with the characterization, I certainly agree with
>>> the sentiment.  Just how lonely and pathetic does someone need to be to
>>> look forward to their time with a cashier?
>>
>> well I'm sure they wouldn't want to talk to you, from the way you sound.
>
> That's quite an assumption you make there.  Cashiers seem every bit as
> happy to talk to me as to the next customer.
>
>> all those chics have to brighten their day is their interaction with the
>> customers, and I always take the opportunity to try to do just that- pay
>> a compliment, have a joke, even just talk about the weather, footy, or
>> whatever- just as many other nice ppl do. of course, there are the rude
>> customers too who talk on their mobiles while being served, or just
>> grunt when the girl asks how they are, or not even grunt but just ignore
>> them. but not all 'checkout chics' are young girls. due to government
>> incentives these days we're seeing a lot more older ppl in jobs
>> traditionally held by teenagers or younger ppl. the 'checkout chic'
>> where I regularly shop is an older guy with a big black mustache! and
>> lets hope that if you're ever 85 years old and in poor health, and
>> living alone because your wife has died, and your kids don't want to
>> know you until you're on your death bed and they're anticipating the
>> settlement of your will, and getting to the supermarket and back takes a
>> major effort, and is an important part of your life, then you might
>> appreciate a friendly smile, and a pleasant chat, with a nice checkout
>> person; because I'm sure as hell some younger person who is like you are
>> now would have no time for you.
>
> Congratulations.  You've managed to make your situation sound even 
> sadder.

so what do you plan to be doing when you're that age? (if you ever are) 
climbing mount Everest? and if you can't bother being nice to a checkout 
person, and enjoy a friendly conversation, no matter what age, then 
there's something wrong with you, which does appear to be the case

>
>>> Why not pay all bills in
>>> person instead of using automated or electronic payments while we're at
>>> it?
>>
>> because it's easier to and not necessary to pay them in person
>
> A self-checkout station is easier, and it's not necessary to deal with
> a human cashier.

so there we have it. it's all about avoiding ppl. that's the truth of 
the matter isn't it.

> How is this any different?

because it's necessary to shop for groceries, but not necessary to pay 
bills in person

> You could have nice
> face-to-face contact with every bill payment, just as you do when at
> a store.  Why are you denying these people the valuable interaction
> you could be providing?

I'll admit, it's a great loss to them not to be able to talk to me. but 
I think they'll manage to survive, perhaps with a little help from 
family and friends, or if necessary, with some counseling. (and speaking 
of counseling, some ppl here in aus.cars would be well advised to seek 
help with their hate and anger issues)

>
>
>>> Just think of the scintillating conversations you could have every
>>> month with the wonderful folks at the utility company, the phone
>>> company, the garbage company, etc.!
>>
>> yeah, you might even get some good tips for the footy or the horses
>>
>>>   If you timed it right, you might
>>> be able to avoid ever going more than three or four days without one of
>>> these life-affirming interactions!
>>
>> yes, getting out and about is very important for older folks.


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