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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: spreadsheet ergonomics |
| Date | 2017-04-05 02:15 +0000 |
| Organization | O.W.L. |
| Message-ID | <ax8002.bue3@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | (8 earlier) <D50963FC.9CC40%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <av9z00.bhddi@rooftop.invalid> <D5099182.9CC91%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <kzgab83.abyh3@rooftop.invalid> <D5099D13.9CCA3%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 4/4/17, 6:49 PM, in article kzgab83.abyh3@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> On 4/4/17, 3:42 PM, in article av9z00.bhddi@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Will play with it later... thanks. Looking at it just briefly, though, I >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> where it is six files (compressed) and for most users would just lead to >>>>>>> confusion. I assume I need change permissions on startem, startemx, and >>>>>>> ud... and then run startem? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The perms should already show as executable. >>>>>> >>>>> Ah. In some ways that is good... but also a security risk. >>>> >>>> Nope. It does not auto-execute, and the source is there >>>> for you to peruse in advance of running it. >>> >>> That does not eliminate security risks. But we hear time and time again, >>> with reason, how it is good to have it where you need to set permissions to >>> run a "random" program. But it turns out you do not have to do that. >>> >>> On macOS, for what it is worth, it warns you that this is the first time you >>> are opening the file and has you jump through hoops... even tells you the >>> source (what program you got it from, etc.). >>> >>> Interesting Linux does not offer such protections. I would have thought it >>> would. >> >> That's for downloaded files. > > Which is what I did... downloaded them. > No, you downloaded a tarball that contained those files. >> The file in question is wrapped in a tarball. >> If the tarball had its execute bit set, that would be zero'd. >> >> Here is the result of a browser download of a file whose execute bit was set: >> >> root@lowtide:/var/www# ls -l wave >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6688 Apr 4 21:47 wave >> root@lowtide:/var/www# >> >> anon@lowtide:~$ ls -l Downloads/wave >> -rw-r--r-- 1 anon anon 6688 Apr 4 21:47 Downloads/wave >> anon@lowtide:~$ > > I did not think Linux had the same type of protection as macOS here... not > sure why I was thinking the permissions would be changed. My mistake on > that. > As you can see, the perms *are* changed, so I'm not sure what you're saying here. >>>> Unlike with Numbers. Who knows what that Numbers does behind the scenes. >>>> You choose to trust a corporation that refuses to cooperate with law >>>> enforcement. >>>> >>> So you have no concern running scripts from any source. >> >> I never said that. > > Whew. And as we have seen it would be unwise to take your advice on a "real" > system... the risk of lost data is real simply to rename files. > No, what we have seen is that it would be unwise to hire you to write up a specification.
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