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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.
Date	2017-04-30 15:01 -0700
Message-ID	<D52BACD4.A298D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References	(22 earlier) <oe5dmj$c1$7@dont-email.me> <D52B9256.A2942%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <oe5har$j4a$1@dont-email.me> <D52B9D96.A295D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <oe5l88$2up$1@dont-email.me>

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On 4/30/17, 2:34 PM, in article oe5l88$2up$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
<spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:56:38 -0700, Snit, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> On 4/30/17, 1:27 PM, in article oe5har$j4a$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> ... 
>>>>>>>>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What makes you think four inches?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What is it, then?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please answer the question and then we can look at the evidence.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is no evidence.
>>>> 
>>>> OK, so you made up the claim of 4 inches based on no evidence. Thank you
>>>> for
>>>> the admission.
>>> 
>>> That's based on what will actually melt with a 2 degree increase.  The
>>> Himalayas
>>> ain't gonna melt.  The Antarctic ain't gonna melt.
>> 
>> That is your claim. Cool. But what you lack is evidence. See, this is a
>> challenge for you: you keep making claims but then back it with nothing
>> other than your own intuition, and show NO data.
> 
> It's what the environ Mentalist say.
> I'm giving that to you.

At this point it is clear that no matter how often you are asked to show
evidence you not only will fail to do so, you will not show any
understanding of the concept. You will not point to any scientific article
nor a respected scientific group's website, etc.

So be it. You have made up your mind to believe those who are working to
socialize the costs of our use of carbon. That is a shame and I disagree
with your position but I will not pretend I will change your mind with
actual evidence. You are resistant to it. So be it.

>>>> Do you now actually want to see what the evidence shows?
>>> 
>>> I've seen it.
>>> The coverage of glaciers and Greenland melting!
>>> I live near the ocean.
>>> It ain't no higher.
>> 
>> So you prefer to use your own biased perceptions and not science and broader
>> evidence. Not much I can do about that. Heck, if I told you the world was
>> flat and told you I knew the evidence of ships sails "sinking" and had seen
>> the images of the planet from space and even from weather balloons and the
>> like which showed otherwise, but STILL denied it was round there would not
>> be much point in trying to convince me otherwise.
> 
> It's roundish.

Fair enough. OK, off the topic a bit but fun: about 1 in 4 Americans think
the sun goes around the Earth: <https://goo.gl/TMGmO3>. Most of the rest
think the Earth goes around the sun.

What do you think?


>> That is where you are at: you claim to be familiar with the science but
>> still deny it. Not much to say to that. OK. You deny climate science. I hope
>> you have a great day.
>>  
>>> Of course, no one will pay people just to get their picture taken on a
>>> glacier.
>>> There has to be alarmist science happening.
>>> 
>>> You know that Al Gore and friends will profit.
>>> They currently want $300,000,000,000-$800,000,000,000/year to cut warming by
>>> one-third.
>>> 
>>> By 2050, instead of a 2 degree increase, it will be 1.6 degrees.
>>> That's 800 billion, so that instead of galoshes, sandals will do.
>> 
>> See: you just are going to back socializing the costs of carbon no matter
>> what I say. You will push conspiracy theories and ignore the science no
>> matter what I do. Really nothing left to say on the topic.>
>
> LOL.

Just because there is nothing left to say does not mean we will not keep
saying it! :)

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:11 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 18:36 +0000
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:48 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 18:54 +0000
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:09 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:14 +0000
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              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 19:39 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:50 +0000
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                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:00 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:09 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:23 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:24 -0400
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        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:04 +0000
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:14 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:16 +0000
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:24 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:25 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 13:08 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 20:27 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 20:34 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 13:56 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 21:34 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:01 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:06 +0000
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                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:34 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:00 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:03 +0000
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                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 14:28 -0700
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                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:34 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:49 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:01 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:40 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:16 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:15 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:28 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:43 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:48 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:51 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:55 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:55 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:08 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:17 +0000
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                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:46 +0000
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            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:36 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:43 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:01 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:45 +0000
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:54 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:53 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 19:16 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:17 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:13 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:23 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:42 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:57 +0000

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