Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones.

From	Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, uk.telecom.mobile
Subject	Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones.
Date	2025-03-21 14:41 +0000
Organization	Frantic
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Marion <marion@facts.com> writes:

> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 12:12:16 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote :
>
>
>>> What the article does not clarify is whether Android will also
>>> implement this (Google uses its own encryption method), and so what
>>> will happen to cross platform messages.
>> Since MLS will become part of RCS, Google would be stupid not to
>> implement it. In fact when MLS is implemented, there is no need to keep
>> the proprietary solution in place - maybe just as a fall back for old
>> devices.
>
> Google is already on record for adopting MLS the same time Apple does.
> What's interesting though is how it will work when the Internet sucks.
>
> Nothing can happen until the two *devices* exchange the keys, right?
>
> Apparently the fallback will be two-fold if there is no Internet:
> a. Queue the message for a while, and, if necessary... b. Eventually
> fall back to SMS/MMS
>
> But the fallback will be *different* depending on WHO is offline!
>
> I use the last known good version of PulseSMS so I don't have RCS, but
> apparently those with Google Messages have to set an option to get that.
> Automatically resend as SMS/MMS = on/off

With Google Messages, if you send a message by RCS and you see it has
not been delivered or read, because the ticks have not lit up, you can
tap the message and then you get an option to switch to SMS. I think you
used to be able to hold down the send button, but that seems to have
changed.

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Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:40 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-17 21:32 +0100
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 01:32 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-18 07:25 +0000
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:17 +0000
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:15 +0100
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:31 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 14:12 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 22:25 +0100
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 23:11 +0100
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 02:08 +0100
            Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:07 +0100
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 17:07 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 11:14 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-24 14:31 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 21:40 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 14:12 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 17:14 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 17:21 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 19:47 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:10 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-26 15:36 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-27 10:32 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 15:01 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-28 17:22 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 18:31 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:46 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:13 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 21:41 +0100
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-20 03:32 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 22:31 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 20:34 +0000
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-17 13:43 -0700
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 06:58 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:12 +0100
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:44 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-18 18:20 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 02:38 +0000
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:20 +0100
            Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-19 10:32 +0000
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 15:58 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 16:39 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:30 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:39 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:53 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 18:09 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 18:37 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:48 -0600
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-19 16:55 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-03-21 14:41 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 17:08 +0000

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