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Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?)

From RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Message-ID <2016090520004194176-rsw@therandymoncom> (permalink)
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Subject Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?)
Organization blocknews - www.blocknews.net
Date 2016-09-05 20:00 -0400

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On 2016-09-04 03:12:34 +0000, Larry Sheldon said:
>> 
>> The old one was wrong.
> So it was ordained that EVERY mechanically produced directory would be 
> read against the hot lead book-on-the-street.  It was decided that we 
> would use the Information Directory Reprints (and the Supplements) 
> would be used since the Reprints came out monthly (and the Supplements 
> daily) so several cycles could be be checked.
> 
> The Daily Supplements were abandoned quickly because the new system was 
> quicker than the old and the differences were huge.
> 
> But the Reprint effort persisted and every "Error" was greeted with 
> great delight until it became apparent that with few exceptions the 
> lead book was wrong.  And where the lead was "right" there was an Error 
> Notice in awaiting resolution by Error Control in the automated system.


This sounds like an exercise in insanity, using modern systems to 
emulate old ones rather than replace them.  The transition to newer 
paradigms often takes a long time.  Newer start-ups these days 
typically eschew what was considered "classic" for the better part of a 
decade (Microsoft Server, with Outlook serving mail, a set of shared 
drives, and the usual Word/Excel/Powerpoint for everything including, 
sadly Excel for databases) and go with a fleet of web apps and software 
as a service.  I was somewhat surprised when my latest employer used 
exactly that set up - it's starting to look old, and Sharepoint as an 
Intranet sucks donkeyballs.  There are lots of innovative new services 
to choose from (though you wind up paying monthly for each and every 
one of them).   Some day we'll look back on this "classic" formula with 
the same disdain as we do the era where we tried to use paper systems 
to manage digital ones.

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  Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 02:27 +0000
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-01 02:47 +0000
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-01 14:10 +1000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 10:12 +0000
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-01 21:48 +0200
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      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 10:22 +0000
  Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 22:23 -0500
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 06:44 +0000
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        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:16 -0500
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:43 +0200
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        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-01 21:23 +0000
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-03 08:17 +0100
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-03 12:17 +0000
              New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 22:12 -0500
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-05 20:00 -0400
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 19:36 -0500
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 19:42 -0500
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:13 +0200
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:46 +0200
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-04 21:26 +0000
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            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-18 10:18 +0200
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:20 -0500
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 21:41 +0200
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:11 -0500
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:30 +0200
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-04 21:25 +0000

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