Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: uk.telecom Subject: Virgin Media's Digital Voice system Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:13:57 +0000 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <82v7g2uk0q.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="81417"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:J06FOO/26h60Z0UisUMKYeJdKPI= sha1:b94axtbLijEYzgxh/d9poMbMFmo= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXVoUC56DY/09Y4pvgDaPTXK5OtZl51uS83MF1WqiTQKX4oLkx9S1Cj/EDHucRJA== Xref: csiph.com uk.telecom:38892 I read that VM uses SIP for its business services, but for residential services it uses its own digital voice system. Why does it do this you might wonder? Call me a cynic, but I would say it is so that it can never interoperate with the SIP telephone network, and they can always charge a connection fee. This is the same approach of Google and Amazon, just refuse to co-operate and so make life difficult for customers. So there it is, we've destroyed the telephone network and handed ourselves over to corporations to feed parasitically on us. All this was started by Margaret Thatcher. Without these arbitrary contrived obsticals there would be no reason for charging separately for voice calls as if they are different from any other internet service.