Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: uk.telecom Subject: Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 17:50:08 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <82v7d386gv.fsf@example.com> References: <381ktk9jo6kkmsu7vorq77ba7h2scskfd8@4ax.com> <10rd676$1nn8o$1@dont-email.me> <828qaterep.fsf@example.com> <10rdga8$1pm5d$6@dont-email.me> <10re055$1uk4t$1@dont-email.me> <10re0q6$1vpfr$1@dont-email.me> <10rg02b$2ghjg$1@dont-email.me> <10rio1n$3a35r$1@dont-email.me> <1rtibg1.1slarp4hfxrlsN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <10t7ebv$2sml1$2@dont-email.me> <10t8hp7$37vja$1@dont-email.me> <1rul1zp.14rrgxn1p0lxc6N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <824ikn9o74.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="147748"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kjdYpMTzpTj0CuiklI3P2pyDih8= sha1:F9OB9X658EF4RjnSx14IGyrA+jU= X-User-ID: eJwNxckBwDAIA7CZGsCGcTjC/iOk+sgEH5oKg9ra6uUdTUiGz56gMoR+/qpyetCNW7aOHAoeItARhw== Xref: csiph.com uk.telecom:39459 Theo writes: > Richmond wrote: >> Has anyone calculated how much it costs to run a mobile phone? Claude >> estimates £250-£450 per annum. So if mobile is the backup plan you have >> to add that on to VOIP. And you have to add on the cost of fibre too. > > I pay £2.99 a month for unlimited calls, texts and 1GB of data. So, you too have misread the question and calculated the cost of a SIM card, not the cost of running a mobile phone. > > Good luck getting a landline with unlimited calls from the usual suspects > for that. > >> As there is hardly any reception in my house, mobile phone calls are >> expensive VOIP calls. > > If your mobile does Wifi Calling, you can call using your mobile minutes and > your broadband for backhaul. Yes, that's what I meant. My mobile costs more than VOIP but as the signal is poor it uses VOIP anyway. So I am paying 3p for a VOIP call, I might as well use VOIP and pay 1p. > > Although for making calls I do prefer using DECT handsets over awkward > squares of glass. (yes, I know hands free and headsets etc are available) > Yes and there is less latency.