Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: uk.telecom Subject: Re: Engaged tone Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2026 22:32:38 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <82cxzw9cp5.fsf@example.com> References: <10rkvi3$3vsri$2@dont-email.me> <82wly93f6d.fsf@example.com> <10s0sd8$31q5v$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="590382"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MC7UIgrqj92eaEYlUZu3peXMBww= sha1:tzOsUG9f4xEimSVvhbr/E3quB3o= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBwDAIA0BLvCnIoR3xL2F36VC8E0hEMumNHnQ5c5Jb9u2xGnlQNdvhqFxZLG/YuvwXVhEr Xref: csiph.com uk.telecom:39406 Jeff Layman writes: > On 14/04/2026 13:22, Richmond wrote: >> Jeff Layman writes: >> >>> Years ago with POTS if you got a constantly engaged tone you could >>> phone the operator and ask if there really was someone on the >>> line. They could check and tell if there was a conversation going on >>> or not, and perhaps the phone had been left "off the hook". >>> >>> I assume that this is still possible with purely analogue lines in >>> some way, but what about Digital Voice? >> I get an engaged tone when people hang up at the end of the call. I >> think it comes from the router. It's probably the VOIP equivalent of >> "Oops, something went wrong". > > It seems strange that an engaged tone should be used when the > connection has been terminated; if you hang on long enough does it > change to a "call terminated" tone? What tone do you get when you dial > an unobtainable number? I don't know, but I suppose if I got an engaged tone, I wouldn't know if it was unobtainable or engaged. What's an example of an unobtainable number?