Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: uk.tech.broadcast,uk.telecom Subject: Re: Ofcom looks at Meta Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2026 13:42:11 +0000 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <828qdcfumk.fsf@example.com> References: <824iocjzzp.fsf@example.com> <10l0vm4$bk7f$1@dont-email.me> <10l1586$d505$4@dont-email.me> <10l2g1v$qgd6$1@dont-email.me> <10l2jec$rk46$1@dont-email.me> <10l2jkp$rn1r$1@dont-email.me> <10l2lgr$d91l$5@dont-email.me> <10l4kr0$1ggf9$1@dont-email.me> <10ldl0t$nde9$1@dont-email.me> <10lnba5$3lab4$1@dont-email.me> <10lngj4$3frd8$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="112827"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:B7DNgmco9+/irD7/x78jfl10fNc= sha1:H5vYOXnYTPprFlQ0IRdx975d2PY= X-User-ID: eJwNwoERwEAEBMCWJNyhHHn0X8JndqF8eNwIGvb3rQenJ5BJ6HRWlZ1uGXFKvyMLanslQvMCK2MRTw== Xref: csiph.com uk.tech.broadcast:69629 uk.telecom:38790 "J. P. Gilliver" writes: > On 2026/2/1 10:52:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 01/02/2026 09:02, Julian Macassey wrote: >>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:37:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 28/01/2026 17:59, Julian Macassey wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 08:38:54 +0000, JMB99 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I had Netflix included with my broadband but I don't think I have >>>>>> ever watched any of their own stuff. >>>>> >>>>> What is this week's definition of broadband? Well its all very >>>> open to question. >>> >>> So, it is in fact whatever the vendor says it is. > > Correct. > >>>> >>>> Originally 'broadband' was what was applied to telephone lines that >>>> used more than 'baseband' to transfer data (modems of the audible >>>> sort). i,e,. DSL of various flavours. >>> >>> That was decades ago. >>> > But doesn't make it invalid. > >>>> >>>> It's been widened to include FTTP, But its arguable as to whether >>>> mobile data should be under its name. >>> >>> These days, selling cellular 5G and DSL as broadband is fraud. > > For it to be fraud, there'd need to be a legal definition of what > broadband means. > > I agree, it is (arguably mis-)used these days just to mean internet > access, but that's the way things are. >> >> I see you do not actually understand why it was called broadband in >> the first place >> >>>> >>>> That is usally 'mobile broadband' at best. >>> >>> Which isn't broadband. >>> > By your definition - which is? >> >>> >> > > Sadly (in some ways), language evolves - often in ways that some of us > find irritating, especially when the change mangles (or even > reverses!) the original meaning. This can apply especially in > technical areas. But there's nothing you can do about it (I know: my > brother works for the dictionary), unless it has been tied down > legally in some agreement/contract (and then only in the context of > that agreement/contract). BT's 2Mbps service was called broadband (2005?), but it was slower than 5g is now. Their website was saying "broadband is here" in 2002, so imagine how slow that was. https://web.archive.org/web/20020619040045/http://www.bt.com/index.jsp