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| First post | 2026-05-27 15:03 +0100 |
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macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-05-27 15:03 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 14:29 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-05-27 15:15 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 15:34 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-05-27 18:34 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 20:00 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-05-27 23:36 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 23:33 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-05-28 12:48 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 20:31 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-05-27 23:42 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 23:39 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-05-28 08:48 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-28 12:26 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-02 10:51 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 16:13 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-02 21:58 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:03 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-02 21:21 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:46 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-02 21:57 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 00:35 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-03 07:46 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 14:02 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-03 14:54 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 15:43 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-03 16:00 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 19:06 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-03 19:40 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 19:48 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-03 19:58 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 23:53 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-04 08:08 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 13:53 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-04 14:32 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 14:47 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-04 15:05 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 16:20 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-04 20:07 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 19:16 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-04 21:59 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 21:15 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-04 22:38 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 22:28 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-04 22:50 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 22:27 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-04 23:34 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 22:57 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 15:45 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-03 17:01 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 19:06 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-03 19:46 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 19:49 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-02 09:59 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 16:14 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-02 22:02 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:05 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-02 22:23 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 00:40 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-03 08:51 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 14:02 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-06-03 20:22 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 23:45 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-06-03 20:22 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 23:45 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-04 08:31 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 13:56 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-04 15:59 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 16:06 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-06-05 03:42 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-05 03:59 +0000
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> - 2026-06-04 08:26 +0100
Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 13:57 +0000
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| From | Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 14:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a2033fe$1$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #183768 |
David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote: > On 02/06/2026 23:23, pothead wrote: >> On 2026-06-02, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote: >>> On 02/06/2026 17:14, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>> On Jun 2, 2026 at 1:59:32 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote >>>> <n87kbkFm6lrU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>> >>>>> On 02/06/2026 04:37, Gremlin wrote: >>>>>> "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> news:n7ug66F8n7lU1@mid.individual.net >>>>>> Fri, 29 May 2026 21:53:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29/05/2026 22:19, pothead wrote: >>>>>>>> If you are interested in bits and bytes left around after a removal of >>>>>>>> a program you will have a field day with Windows and the registry. >>>>>>>> Happy hunting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's all behind me now. I cut my teeth on Windows 3.1 and have used >>>>>>> nearly all the Microsoft operating systems up to Windows 10. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yet you remain for all intents and purposes, a tech n00b. In all that time, >>>>>> you have less technical working knowledge of how the machine in front of you >>>>>> works than Snit. >>>>>> That is NOT something you should be proud of. You have done as poorly with >>>>>> tech as you did flying. It's a shame you can't be forced to turn your >>>>>> computers in like you did your pilots wings. You had to turn those in for >>>>>> gross incompetence, too. You were deemed a danger to yourself, your own >>>>>> people and your own gear. The enemy would have nothing to fear from you. >>>>> >>>>> "Gremlin" <nobody@haph.org> wrote: >>>>>> It's a shame you can't be forced to turn your computers in like >>>>>> you did your pilots wings. You had to turn those in for gross >>>>>> incompetence, too. >>>>> >>>>> Your imagination is running wild again, Dustin. >>>>> >>>>> My 1969 naval flying logbook records the standard, administrative >>>>> "Suspended from Flying Training. Flying Badge Removed" stamp from the >>>>> Naval Aircrew Advisory Board. It was standard service practice, not a >>>>> dramatic court-martial for "gross incompetence." >>>>> >>>>> Here's another copy, to save you 'digging back':- >>>>> >>>>> https://i.ibb.co/3mkhnC3Q/Flying-Log-Book.jpg >>>>> >>>>> I went on to serve in the Royal Navy for over 20 years, specialised in >>>>> air traffic control, was promoted to Lieutenant Commander, and chose >>>>> early retirement in 1983. (Under the 1981 Defence Review) >>>>> >>>>> As for your "tech n00b" lectures, I managed to handle advanced naval >>>>> radar systems back when you were likely still in short trousers. >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to keep screaming at the clouds, but do try to stick to facts >>>>> next time! >>>> >>>> Gremlin feels the need to make up stories about others -- putting them down, >>>> and about himself -- propping himself up. He tells the most amazing whoppers >>>> to try to make himself look better to others, but more importantly to himself. >>> >>> Nowadays, tradesmen are "the salt of the earth". >>> >>> He should be proud of all he has achieved. >> >> Indeed. >> A Harvard degree in gender studies is 100% useless and the $100k or more >> that the student is left in debt, in the USA, makes it even worse. >> >> Study something you have to physically touch. >> The tech installing a major network in a large company is worth a heck of >> a lot more than the network architect designing the system and who probably >> resides in some 3rd world country. >> And AI will replace that person soon. >> >> The trades are extremely lucrative especially now that the boomer generation >> is aging and needs help doing things that maybe they were able to do in the past. >> >> I also applaud the current administration for digging into welfare/public >> assistance fraud both at the "factory level" and down to the individuals >> claiming checks each month who do not deserve them. >> Those people are leeches, parasites, milking the system and when taken >> as a whole, scam the taxpayers for a massive amount of money that could >> go to help pay for those who truly deserve the government help as many do. >> >> In the USA waste is extreme and needs to be stopped even if it is >> one parasite at a time. > > > I support all you have said above. > > It's exactly the same in the UK. > > Pothead’s premise is false. And Trump is increasing fraud, not reducing it. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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| From | Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 20:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB460A688845D7HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5> |
| In reply to | #183750 |
Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
news:6a1f015e$0$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Tue, 02 Jun 2026 16:14:22
GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> Gremlin feels the need to make up stories about others -- putting them
> down, and about himself -- propping himself up. He tells the most
> amazing whoppers to try to make himself look better to others, but more
> importantly to himself.
Stop projecting, Snit. I'm not you.
You're the one who does what you described:
MID: <hhk7lhFue2dU2@mid.individual.net>
From: Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
Subject: Re: Please note.
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 22:05:53 -0700
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Message-ID: <hhk7lhFue2dU2@mid.individual.net>
References: <o2fsG.77364$fk3.33122@fx26.ams1>
<hheifoFogdjU1@mid.individual.net>
<XnsABB76B32E964HT1@8P1PQ2e52.7r7wsG43c>
In-Reply-To: <XnsABB76B32E964HT1@8P1PQ2e52.7r7wsG43c>
On 5/7/20 9:36 PM, Diesel wrote:
....
> Now you go and find some old source code you don't understand and ask
> for Snits advice concerning it? The idiot didn't even realize what
> you were asking about and provided you no answer.
Ah, more trolling of me by you. So more reminding you of your past
nonsense.
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Diesel <XnsAB6D6F1BFA61HT1@3dOIZISX3.IwU6R1OH8iz29MMTN26bF08TPFtT157gyFB5>:
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Snit, if you're running the bot you have an easy way out
that won't cost you any respect, face, or anything else.
Just stop. That's it. Simple right?
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The last time the bot had posted was more than three hours before.
Diesel made it clear he could find the IP of the person running the bot.
And he made it clear it would be easy for him to make a Sandman-like
time table of posting, but showing Carroll and the bot and myself.
Was he lying when he said that? Maybe. But I do not think so. And if he
was merely lying he would not have access to the program itself, which
he makes VERY clear he did.
Diesel and Carroll were trolling together. The bot goes silent. Diesel
then says if the bot is just turned off he will let it slide. Does that
sound like Diesel to you? And he also say this:
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It needs to be recoded anyway, it's a seriously piss poor
example of writing software.
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Diesel made it clear he had access not just to the output of the bot but
to the code itself. When called out on this he clarified it was merely
the compiled code he had:
<XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
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Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
provided the original source code that was
compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
still tells you *everything* about the program.
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So how did Diesel get a copy of the program, compiled or not? My guess:
he will NEVER say.
***
You *already wrote a hell of a whopper about me*. You continue trying to
peddle bullshit about me as you have pothead and Steve Carroll. It doesn't
work, Snit. ROFL. Some people already know what you are and more are
learning all about you.
You should have fact checked David, too. Dumbarse. Here's a bit of his
flying history he is denying now:
> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:lmtcrb$ind$2...@dont-email.me:
>
>> SeaNymph wrote:
>>> On 6/6/2014 3:48 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>> Dustin wrote:
>>>>> david brooks was released from the military for being
>>>>> declared a danger to himself and others.
>>>>
>>>> That is completely untrue, Dustin.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, *a lie*!
>>>>
>>>> You really _should_ have paid more attention!
>>>
>>> Well then, why don't you tell us the truth. Wasn't it something
>>> about being kicked out of the aviation program for being a danger
>>> to others?
>>
>> As published on Annexcafe in 2006:
>>
>> =
>> Stopped when the "powers that be"
>> thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or
>> my crew!).
>
> No shit. Wanna call me a liar again? You were kicked out for being a
> danger to yourself and/or your crew, just like I said. You'd already
> told us this before.. So how was I lieing about it?
Your spelling needs attention.
~BD~'s profile photo
~BD~
unread,
Jun 6, 2014, 5:46:27?PM
to
As published on Annexcafe in 2006:
=
More about BoaterDaveTJ:
Joined the Royal Navy as an Artificer Apprentice in 1962. Studied
Control Engineering for 5 years (when computers I worked with had
thermionic valves!). I was promoted and attended BRNC Dartmouth in 1967.
Flying training as a pilot thereafter. Flew Jet Provost, twin and single
seat Hawker Hunters and a Buccaneer. Stopped when the "powers that be"
thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or my
crew!). Still within the RN, retrained and served as an ATCO (Air
Traffic Control Officer). Left in 1983 under voluntary redundancy terms
with the rank of Lieutenant Commander. Thereafter, I became a qualified
Independent Financial Adviser and worked for Marsh Inc here in the UK
and became a Divisional Director. Retired again! (early - 53) in 1999
with the intention of working for myself or, perhaps, a small local firm
with less stressful demands. Tragically, however, my younger son, Nick,
suddenly collapsed and died in Jan 99 - no cause for his death was
found. My wife and I were totally devastated. We bought a narrowboat of
our own (we had had a share in one previously) and set out to more fully
explore the English waterways; it has been highly therapeutic yet we are
still coming to terms with our loss. Therafter I decided that 'work'
would be a four letter word ................. and I remain retired!
**
See the part where the powers that be deemed him a threat to his own people
and himself? They kicked him out of flight school. He didn't continue flying.
As I fucking wrote.
The two of you cannot save each other. You cannot rebrand each other. You're
both pondscum and more people will learn that about the two of you.
You're fucked, weasel. :)
--
Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 23:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a20bc83$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #183787 |
On Jun 3, 2026 at 1:22:15 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB460A688845D7HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
> Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
> news:6a1f015e$0$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Tue, 02 Jun 2026 16:14:22
> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>
>> Gremlin feels the need to make up stories about others -- putting them
>> down, and about himself -- propping himself up. He tells the most
>> amazing whoppers to try to make himself look better to others, but more
>> importantly to himself.
>
> Stop projecting, Snit. I'm not you.
>
> You're the one who does what you described:
>
> MID: <hhk7lhFue2dU2@mid.individual.net>
>
> From: Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
> Subject: Re: Please note.
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 22:05:53 -0700
> Lines: 112
> Message-ID: <hhk7lhFue2dU2@mid.individual.net>
> References: <o2fsG.77364$fk3.33122@fx26.ams1>
> <hheifoFogdjU1@mid.individual.net>
> <XnsABB76B32E964HT1@8P1PQ2e52.7r7wsG43c>
> In-Reply-To: <XnsABB76B32E964HT1@8P1PQ2e52.7r7wsG43c>
>
> On 5/7/20 9:36 PM, Diesel wrote:
> ....
>> Now you go and find some old source code you don't understand and ask
>> for Snits advice concerning it? The idiot didn't even realize what
>> you were asking about and provided you no answer.
>
> Ah, more trolling of me by you. So more reminding you of your past
> nonsense.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Diesel <XnsAB6D6F1BFA61HT1@3dOIZISX3.IwU6R1OH8iz29MMTN26bF08TPFtT157gyFB5>:
> -----
> Snit, if you're running the bot you have an easy way out
> that won't cost you any respect, face, or anything else.
> Just stop. That's it. Simple right?
> -----
>
> The last time the bot had posted was more than three hours before.
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* Gremlin got all excited he used a mouse-less computer as if that
was impressive.
<XnsABEF47D94EFACHT1@rSNu6VvwL.gxU66>:
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My first computer didn't even know what a fucking mouse
was. You really are playing games with the wrong one.
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>
> Diesel made it clear he could find the IP of the person running the bot.
> And he made it clear it would be easy for him to make a Sandman-like
> time table of posting, but showing Carroll and the bot and myself.
>
> Was he lying when he said that? Maybe. But I do not think so. And if he
> was merely lying he would not have access to the program itself, which
> he makes VERY clear he did.
>
> Diesel and Carroll were trolling together. The bot goes silent. Diesel
> then says if the bot is just turned off he will let it slide. Does that
> sound like Diesel to you? And he also say this:
> -----
> It needs to be recoded anyway, it's a seriously piss poor
> example of writing software.
> -----
>
> Diesel made it clear he had access not just to the output of the bot but
> to the code itself. When called out on this he clarified it was merely
> the compiled code he had:
>
> <XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
> -----
> Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
> provided the original source code that was
> compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
> given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
> still tells you *everything* about the program.
> -----
>
> So how did Diesel get a copy of the program, compiled or not? My guess:
> he will NEVER say.
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* Gremlin could not believe FirstClass could handle so many
simultaneous connections.
<XnsAB5313CBDCEE6HT1@2sAL9.E04>
-----
Yes, you had a modem bank, tied into a network, not a
single workstation. A single workstation back then
wouldn't have had the cpu power to deal with one hundred
concurrent connections on it's own. That's a shitload more
cpu power required than you seem to realize, here, Snit.
...
Uhh, I don't care what code optimizing tricks they used,
there's no fucking way they were able to support one
hundred people, at one time, on one machine. No fucking
way, Snit. You had alot more hardware involved.
-----
Notice I said about 80... not 100... but I know it could do it because
it DID do it. It helped that most users were merely reading text. There
was little "heavy" usage.
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>
> ***
>
> You *already wrote a hell of a whopper about me*. You continue trying to
> peddle bullshit about me as you have pothead and Steve Carroll. It doesn't
> work, Snit. ROFL. Some people already know what you are and more are
> learning all about you.
>
> You should have fact checked David, too. Dumbarse. Here's a bit of his
> flying history he is denying now:
>
>> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:lmtcrb$ind$2...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> SeaNymph wrote:
>>>> On 6/6/2014 3:48 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>> Dustin wrote:
>>>>>> david brooks was released from the military for being
>>>>>> declared a danger to himself and others.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is completely untrue, Dustin.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, *a lie*!
>>>>>
>>>>> You really _should_ have paid more attention!
>>>>
>>>> Well then, why don't you tell us the truth. Wasn't it something
>>>> about being kicked out of the aviation program for being a danger
>>>> to others?
>>>
>>> As published on Annexcafe in 2006:
>>>
>>> =
>>> Stopped when the "powers that be"
>>> thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or
>>> my crew!).
>>
>> No shit. Wanna call me a liar again? You were kicked out for being a
>> danger to yourself and/or your crew, just like I said. You'd already
>> told us this before.. So how was I lieing about it?
>
> Your spelling needs attention.
>
> ~BD~'s profile photo
> ~BD~
> unread,
> Jun 6, 2014, 5:46:27?PM
> to
> As published on Annexcafe in 2006:
>
> =
>
> More about BoaterDaveTJ:
>
> Joined the Royal Navy as an Artificer Apprentice in 1962. Studied
> Control Engineering for 5 years (when computers I worked with had
> thermionic valves!). I was promoted and attended BRNC Dartmouth in 1967.
> Flying training as a pilot thereafter. Flew Jet Provost, twin and single
> seat Hawker Hunters and a Buccaneer. Stopped when the "powers that be"
> thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or my
> crew!). Still within the RN, retrained and served as an ATCO (Air
> Traffic Control Officer). Left in 1983 under voluntary redundancy terms
> with the rank of Lieutenant Commander. Thereafter, I became a qualified
> Independent Financial Adviser and worked for Marsh Inc here in the UK
> and became a Divisional Director. Retired again! (early - 53) in 1999
> with the intention of working for myself or, perhaps, a small local firm
> with less stressful demands. Tragically, however, my younger son, Nick,
> suddenly collapsed and died in Jan 99 - no cause for his death was
> found. My wife and I were totally devastated. We bought a narrowboat of
> our own (we had had a share in one previously) and set out to more fully
> explore the English waterways; it has been highly therapeutic yet we are
> still coming to terms with our loss. Therafter I decided that 'work'
> would be a four letter word ................. and I remain retired!
> **
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* Gremlin did not realize the risks of writing to APFS on Linux.
Snit <hb707bFgcm6U1@mid.individual.net>:
-----
I did not know if Linux handles APFS. It does but warns
you to use it read only or risk damage. I suspect other
Linux based rescue disks would be much the same.
-----
Context here is damage to the APFS file system by the Kaspersky tools.
David <9ss3G.298226$ls7.44481@fx40.iad>:
-----
I most certainly don't wish to damage my iMac!
-----
Context here is STILL damage to the APFS file system by the Kaspersky
tools. And David shows understanding that using it in write-only mode
can cause damage. He may not understand the details of why and how,
but that is not relevant and not something to attack him for. But look
how Diesel responds:
<XnsAB6D6ED5F0B7HT1@3dOIZISX3.IwU6R1OH8iz29MMTN26bF08TPFtT157gyFB5>
-----
Yet another example of you not understanding something,
David.
-----
David clearly understood there was a risk of damage he did not want to
take! It is not a competition to see who understand the exact nature
of the damage the tool warns about! But Diesel goes on:
-----
Worst possible case scenario, if you allow write
access and it borks; the file it was working with may be,
damaged. Or, another area of the hard disk might contain
data that was intended for that file. If nothing was
present in that area, no harm no foul. If there was used
data in that area, well, something just got stomped on.
-----
But a LOT more than just harming a file is possible. There can be much
worse data loss that what Diesel tries to present. Hell, even with
with what he says if you override key areas to a filesystem you can be
in trouble. Diesel should understand this!
Here is the exact warning provided by the tool:
https://imgur.com/gNWmphL.png
-----
Apple filesystems are working in journaling mode. Linux
filesystem driver has limited support for this mode.
Press SKIP to mount volumes in "read-only" mode. Malware
isn't being disinfected in this mode!
Press CONTINUE to try to mount volumes in "read-write"
mode. This procedure may cause damage to the filesystem!
-----
Note, not just to a file... but to the filesystem itself. Diesel can
claim an "out" in that this does not likely cause any PHYSICAL damage
to the drive (would be bizarre if it did) but it can cause you to lose
access to any and ALL data on that drive (or at least that volume).
This is BAD and would generally lead to you restoring from back up.
And it undoubtedly is damage David, or others, would not want to risk
on a main system!
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> See the part where the powers that be deemed him a threat to his own people
> and himself? They kicked him out of flight school. He didn't continue flying.
> As I fucking wrote.
> The two of you cannot save each other. You cannot rebrand each other. You're
> both pondscum and more people will learn that about the two of you.
>
> You're fucked, weasel. :)
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* Gremlin did not understand ASCII is a standard where "A" is
always 65 (DEC).
-----
Set A1 and A2 variables at the ascii value for A (On
the IBM platform that value is 65) Set counter to 0.
-----
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--
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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| From | Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-06-03 20:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB460A6869B1C1HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5> |
| In reply to | #183740 |
"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> news:n87kbkFm6lrU1@mid.individual.net Tue, 02 Jun 2026 08:59:32 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: > On 02/06/2026 04:37, Gremlin wrote: >> "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> >> news:n7ug66F8n7lU1@mid.individual.net Fri, 29 May 2026 21:53:10 GMT in >> alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >> >>> On 29/05/2026 22:19, pothead wrote: >>>> If you are interested in bits and bytes left around after a removal >>>> of a program you will have a field day with Windows and the registry. >>>> Happy hunting. >>> >>> That's all behind me now. I cut my teeth on Windows 3.1 and have used >>> nearly all the Microsoft operating systems up to Windows 10. >> >> Yet you remain for all intents and purposes, a tech n00b. In all that >> time, you have less technical working knowledge of how the machine in >> front of you works than Snit. >> That is NOT something you should be proud of. You have done as poorly >> with tech as you did flying. It's a shame you can't be forced to turn >> your computers in like you did your pilots wings. You had to turn those >> in for gross incompetence, too. You were deemed a danger to yourself, >> your own people and your own gear. The enemy would have nothing to fear >> from you. > > "Gremlin" <nobody@haph.org> wrote: > > It's a shame you can't be forced to turn your computers in like > > you did your pilots wings. You had to turn those in for gross > > incompetence, too. > > Your imagination is running wild again, Dustin. I was hoping you'd perform another clit clogging session. You have not let me down with your reply. > My 1969 naval flying logbook records the standard, administrative > "Suspended from Flying Training. Flying Badge Removed" stamp from the > Naval Aircrew Advisory Board. It was standard service practice, not a > dramatic court-martial for "gross incompetence." > > Here's another copy, to save you 'digging back':- > > https://i.ibb.co/3mkhnC3Q/Flying-Log-Book.jpg > > I went on to serve in the Royal Navy for over 20 years, specialised in > air traffic control, was promoted to Lieutenant Commander, and chose > early retirement in 1983. (Under the 1981 Defence Review) Awe, David, you're leaving some of your past out of your reply. Let me help you fill in the missing spots: > ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in > news:lmtcrb$ind$2...@dont-email.me: > >> SeaNymph wrote: >>> On 6/6/2014 3:48 PM, ~BD~ wrote: >>>> Dustin wrote: >>>>> david brooks was released from the military for being >>>>> declared a danger to himself and others. >>>> >>>> That is completely untrue, Dustin. >>>> >>>> In fact, *a lie*! >>>> >>>> You really _should_ have paid more attention! >>> >>> Well then, why don't you tell us the truth. Wasn't it something >>> about being kicked out of the aviation program for being a danger >>> to others? >> >> As published on Annexcafe in 2006: >> >> = >> Stopped when the "powers that be" >> thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or >> my crew!). > > No shit. Wanna call me a liar again? You were kicked out for being a > danger to yourself and/or your crew, just like I said. You'd already > told us this before.. So how was I lieing about it? Your spelling needs attention. ~BD~'s profile photo ~BD~ unread, Jun 6, 2014, 5:46:27?PM to As published on Annexcafe in 2006: = More about BoaterDaveTJ: Joined the Royal Navy as an Artificer Apprentice in 1962. Studied Control Engineering for 5 years (when computers I worked with had thermionic valves!). I was promoted and attended BRNC Dartmouth in 1967. Flying training as a pilot thereafter. Flew Jet Provost, twin and single seat Hawker Hunters and a Buccaneer. Stopped when the "powers that be" thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or my crew!). Still within the RN, retrained and served as an ATCO (Air Traffic Control Officer). Left in 1983 under voluntary redundancy terms with the rank of Lieutenant Commander. Thereafter, I became a qualified Independent Financial Adviser and worked for Marsh Inc here in the UK and became a Divisional Director. Retired again! (early - 53) in 1999 with the intention of working for myself or, perhaps, a small local firm with less stressful demands. Tragically, however, my younger son, Nick, suddenly collapsed and died in Jan 99 - no cause for his death was found. My wife and I were totally devastated. We bought a narrowboat of our own (we had had a share in one previously) and set out to more fully explore the English waterways; it has been highly therapeutic yet we are still coming to terms with our loss. Therafter I decided that 'work' would be a four letter word ................. and I remain retired! *** Now, what did you write about the powers that be above? :) They took you away from the flight controls, right, David? For being a danger to yourself and others. You were no longer a pilot, correct, David? Therefore, as I fucking wrote, you were kicked out of that. It doesn't matter what you were transferred to doing, you were stilL KICKED OUT of flying. > As for your "tech n00b" lectures, I managed to handle advanced naval > radar systems back when you were likely still in short trousers. I don't give a fuck what you handled, jerked off with, etc. Fact is, you know fuck all about how the tech sitting in front of you actually works. You have spent years asking the same stupid fucking questions because you do not retain knowledge well, if at all. Long term effects of alcohol abuse will do that. > Feel free to keep screaming at the clouds, but do try to stick to facts > next time! Haha. I did stick to the facts. I don't have the memory of a gnat or the attention span of a gold fish. You have demonstrated as having both. Stop drinking, dumbass! Btw, lieing by omission is something that just doesn't really work for usenet purposes. Usenet has a memory. Fucking idiot. Keep doing the clit clog David! Maybe you'll get good enough to teach Snit a new move. He's pretty good, being as he's so experienced, so you might have to work for it! -- Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference? Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference? Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-06-03 23:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a20bc9e$1$44102$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #183786 |
On Jun 3, 2026 at 1:22:12 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB460A6869B1C1HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
> "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> news:n87kbkFm6lrU1@mid.individual.net
> Tue, 02 Jun 2026 08:59:32 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> On 02/06/2026 04:37, Gremlin wrote:
>>> "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
>>> news:n7ug66F8n7lU1@mid.individual.net Fri, 29 May 2026 21:53:10 GMT in
>>> alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/05/2026 22:19, pothead wrote:
>>>>> If you are interested in bits and bytes left around after a removal
>>>>> of a program you will have a field day with Windows and the registry.
>>>>> Happy hunting.
>>>>
>>>> That's all behind me now. I cut my teeth on Windows 3.1 and have used
>>>> nearly all the Microsoft operating systems up to Windows 10.
>>>
>>> Yet you remain for all intents and purposes, a tech n00b. In all that
>>> time, you have less technical working knowledge of how the machine in
>>> front of you works than Snit.
>>> That is NOT something you should be proud of. You have done as poorly
>>> with tech as you did flying. It's a shame you can't be forced to turn
>>> your computers in like you did your pilots wings. You had to turn those
>>> in for gross incompetence, too. You were deemed a danger to yourself,
>>> your own people and your own gear. The enemy would have nothing to fear
>>> from you.
>>
>> "Gremlin" <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
>>> It's a shame you can't be forced to turn your computers in like
>>> you did your pilots wings. You had to turn those in for gross
>>> incompetence, too.
>>
>> Your imagination is running wild again, Dustin.
>
> I was hoping you'd perform another clit clogging session. You have not let
> me down with your reply.
>
>> My 1969 naval flying logbook records the standard, administrative
>> "Suspended from Flying Training. Flying Badge Removed" stamp from the
>> Naval Aircrew Advisory Board. It was standard service practice, not a
>> dramatic court-martial for "gross incompetence."
>>
>> Here's another copy, to save you 'digging back':-
>>
>> https://i.ibb.co/3mkhnC3Q/Flying-Log-Book.jpg
>>
>> I went on to serve in the Royal Navy for over 20 years, specialised in
>> air traffic control, was promoted to Lieutenant Commander, and chose
>> early retirement in 1983. (Under the 1981 Defence Review)
>
> Awe, David, you're leaving some of your past out of your reply. Let me help
> you fill in the missing spots:
>
>> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:lmtcrb$ind$2...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> SeaNymph wrote:
>>>> On 6/6/2014 3:48 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>> Dustin wrote:
>>>>>> david brooks was released from the military for being
>>>>>> declared a danger to himself and others.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is completely untrue, Dustin.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, *a lie*!
>>>>>
>>>>> You really _should_ have paid more attention!
>>>>
>>>> Well then, why don't you tell us the truth. Wasn't it something
>>>> about being kicked out of the aviation program for being a danger
>>>> to others?
>>>
>>> As published on Annexcafe in 2006:
>>>
>>> =
>>> Stopped when the "powers that be"
>>> thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or
>>> my crew!).
>>
>> No shit. Wanna call me a liar again? You were kicked out for being a
>> danger to yourself and/or your crew, just like I said. You'd already
>> told us this before.. So how was I lieing about it?
>
> Your spelling needs attention.
>
> ~BD~'s profile photo
> ~BD~
> unread,
> Jun 6, 2014, 5:46:27?PM
> to
> As published on Annexcafe in 2006:
>
> =
>
> More about BoaterDaveTJ:
>
> Joined the Royal Navy as an Artificer Apprentice in 1962. Studied
> Control Engineering for 5 years (when computers I worked with had
> thermionic valves!). I was promoted and attended BRNC Dartmouth in 1967.
> Flying training as a pilot thereafter. Flew Jet Provost, twin and single
> seat Hawker Hunters and a Buccaneer. Stopped when the "powers that be"
> thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or my
> crew!). Still within the RN, retrained and served as an ATCO (Air
> Traffic Control Officer). Left in 1983 under voluntary redundancy terms
> with the rank of Lieutenant Commander. Thereafter, I became a qualified
> Independent Financial Adviser and worked for Marsh Inc here in the UK
> and became a Divisional Director. Retired again! (early - 53) in 1999
> with the intention of working for myself or, perhaps, a small local firm
> with less stressful demands. Tragically, however, my younger son, Nick,
> suddenly collapsed and died in Jan 99 - no cause for his death was
> found. My wife and I were totally devastated. We bought a narrowboat of
> our own (we had had a share in one previously) and set out to more fully
> explore the English waterways; it has been highly therapeutic yet we are
> still coming to terms with our loss. Therafter I decided that 'work'
> would be a four letter word ................. and I remain retired!]
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* Gremlin says he made AZ Code, but has yet to show he can make it as
easy to encode / decode as I have
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dsmEE2-xgiYJEUMfn4fjuPqp0zUe7ltw/view
Heck, I am not sure he even really understands what AZ Code is! He
supposedly made it, but thinks it takes some convoluted process to
calculate it. You *can* do it that way, but a simple table works great:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14_W7lBUriKUprzudChOGaEDpJ6k9K45K/view
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> ***
>
> Now, what did you write about the powers that be above? :) They took you
> away from the flight controls, right, David? For being a danger to yourself
> and others. You were no longer a pilot, correct, David? Therefore, as I
> fucking wrote, you were kicked out of that. It doesn't matter what you were
> transferred to doing, you were stilL KICKED OUT of flying.
>
>> As for your "tech n00b" lectures, I managed to handle advanced naval
>> radar systems back when you were likely still in short trousers.
>
> I don't give a fuck what you handled, jerked off with, etc. Fact is, you
> know fuck all about how the tech sitting in front of you actually works. You
> have spent years asking the same stupid fucking questions because you do not
> retain knowledge well, if at all. Long term effects of alcohol abuse will do
> that.
>
>> Feel free to keep screaming at the clouds, but do try to stick to facts
>> next time!
>
> Haha. I did stick to the facts. I don't have the memory of a gnat or the
> attention span of a gold fish. You have demonstrated as having both. Stop
> drinking, dumbass!
>
> Btw, lieing by omission is something that just doesn't really work for
> usenet purposes. Usenet has a memory. Fucking idiot.
> Keep doing the clit clog David! Maybe you'll get good enough to teach Snit a
> new move. He's pretty good, being as he's so experienced, so you might have
> to work for it!
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* Gremlin was so ignorant of Linux he thought I was saying a DE
and distro are the same.
<http://techrights.org/TechBytes/techbytes0056.mp3>
• At 9:54 I make it clear when I am speaking of a specific
issue with KDE I am speaking of how it is on one specific
distro by default. It is absolutely clear I know the DE and
the distro are not the same.
• At 12:15 I again speak of how I am referencing KDE on one
distro as it comes by default, and how I realize the
defaults can be changed, and how it is different on other
distros.
• At 30:50 or so I speak about how you are using not just a DE
(KDE, specifically) but a distro, and the distro is a lot
more than just the DE.
Yet you concluded:
<XnsACDA1EDB99E5CHT1@1k.r4QzV.C>:
-----
Snit is evidently unaware of the fact the distro itself and the DE
are not one in the same thing.
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--
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| From | "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> |
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| Date | 2026-06-04 08:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n8cnueF9jecU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #183789 |
On 04/06/2026 00:45, Brock McNuggets needs to know this:- = The US Navy's system is legendary for its unforgiving nature, particularly because it culminates in carrier landings. The Navy divides its students into pipelines (Strike, Rotary, Maritime, Tilt-rotor), with "Strike" being the fast-jet track (F/A-18 Super Hornets and F-35C Lightning IIs). According to recent US Navy flight data and training research: The Overall Attrition: Flight school as a whole carries an overall attrition rate of roughly 17% to 25% across all phases. The Pure Flight Failures: Even after beating the odds to get selected for the Strike pipeline, the pressure doesn't let up. Historical data from Training Air Wing One shows that the combined attrition rate specifically within the Intermediate and Advanced Strike phases (flying the T-45 Goshawk) sits at around 8% to 12%. According to a recent 10-year US Navy study on training data, over 50% of late-stage dropouts in the jet pipeline are explicitly due to flight performance issues (hitting a wall with advanced tactics, tactical formation flying, or Field Carrier Landing Practice). The rest are due to medical issues or "DOR" (Drop on Request—voluntary withdrawal when the stress or physical toll becomes too high). The Safety Valve: "Re-Streaming" Just like in the Royal Navy, washing out of a fast-jet syllabus in the US military doesn't always mean your military career is over. The US Navy notes that roughly 55% to 60% of student pilots who fail to complete the high-stress Strike syllabus are actually successfully re-routed into multi-engine maritime or helicopter pipelines. They are perfectly capable pilots, but they simply hit their human ceiling when subjected to the extreme cognitive load, speed, and spatial awareness required for high-performance tactical jets. The Pure Mathematics When you add up the initial screening tests, officer training dropouts, the massive 75% filter at track selection, and the subsequent 10% failure rate in advanced jet training, fewer than 3% to 5% of original US military pilot applicants ever successfully "wing" as frontline fast-jet pilots. It costs the US Navy nearly $10 million to train a single basic qualified fighter pilot. They do not spend that kind of money, nor do they hand over a $100 million aircraft, to anyone who shows even a hint of hesitation at the controls! = It wasn't an easy path to follow, but it *WAS* great fun! 🤩
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-06-04 13:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a21841f$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #183792 |
On Jun 4, 2026 at 12:31:25 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n8cnueF9jecU1@mid.individual.net>: > On 04/06/2026 00:45, Brock McNuggets needs to know this:- > > = > > The US Navy's system is legendary for its unforgiving nature, > particularly because it culminates in carrier landings. The Navy divides > its students into pipelines (Strike, Rotary, Maritime, Tilt-rotor), with > "Strike" being the fast-jet track (F/A-18 Super Hornets and F-35C > Lightning IIs). > > According to recent US Navy flight data and training research: > > The Overall Attrition: Flight school as a whole carries an overall > attrition rate of roughly 17% to 25% across all phases. > > The Pure Flight Failures: Even after beating the odds to get selected > for the Strike pipeline, the pressure doesn't let up. Historical data > from Training Air Wing One shows that the combined attrition rate > specifically within the Intermediate and Advanced Strike phases (flying > the T-45 Goshawk) sits at around 8% to 12%. > > According to a recent 10-year US Navy study on training data, over 50% > of late-stage dropouts in the jet pipeline are explicitly due to flight > performance issues (hitting a wall with advanced tactics, tactical > formation flying, or Field Carrier Landing Practice). The rest are due > to medical issues or "DOR" (Drop on Request—voluntary withdrawal when > the stress or physical toll becomes too high). > > The Safety Valve: "Re-Streaming" > Just like in the Royal Navy, washing out of a fast-jet syllabus in the > US military doesn't always mean your military career is over. > > The US Navy notes that roughly 55% to 60% of student pilots who fail to > complete the high-stress Strike syllabus are actually successfully > re-routed into multi-engine maritime or helicopter pipelines. They are > perfectly capable pilots, but they simply hit their human ceiling when > subjected to the extreme cognitive load, speed, and spatial awareness > required for high-performance tactical jets. > > The Pure Mathematics > When you add up the initial screening tests, officer training dropouts, > the massive 75% filter at track selection, and the subsequent 10% > failure rate in advanced jet training, fewer than 3% to 5% of original > US military pilot applicants ever successfully "wing" as frontline > fast-jet pilots. > > It costs the US Navy nearly $10 million to train a single basic > qualified fighter pilot. They do not spend that kind of money, nor do > they hand over a $100 million aircraft, to anyone who shows even a hint > of hesitation at the controls! > > = > > It wasn't an easy path to follow, but it *WAS* great fun! 🤩 Taking a page out of your book: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My first thought is that this has very little to do with the thread topic and looks like one of those posts where someone saw a challenge to their competence and responded by pasting a wall of impressive-sounding facts about their past. A few things stand out: * The figures are presented with a lot of precision (“55% to 60%”, “8% to 12%”, “3% to 5%”, “$10 million”) but no sources are cited. * It jumps between “pilot applicants,” flight school students, strike-track students, and successful fighter pilots as though they’re all part of one continuous funnel. That’s a common way statistics get exaggerated. * The “75% filter at track selection” is especially suspicious. Many naval aviators never wanted the strike pipeline in the first place. Treating everyone who ends up in helicopters, maritime patrol, E-2s, etc. as having failed to become fighter pilots is misleading. * The “pure mathematics” section is doing exactly what people often do when they want a dramatic number. If you stack multiple filters from different stages and populations together, you can make almost anything sound impossibly elite. * The final paragraph is clearly an appeal to authority: “I survived this incredibly difficult process, therefore my opinion on the original subject carries weight.” That doesn’t mean the poster is lying about being a naval aviator. The overall point – that carrier-qualified fighter pilots go through extremely demanding training and that many capable pilots wash out or get re-streamed – is broadly true. What strikes me is that the post reads more like self-validation than information sharing. The last line: It wasn’t an easy path to follow, but it WAS great fun! reveals the real purpose of the message. The statistics are mostly there to establish, “I did something very difficult and therefore deserve credibility.” In a discussion about macOS privileged helpers and EtreCheck, however, being able to land on an aircraft carrier is not especially relevant. It is an impressive accomplishment, but it doesn’t automatically make someone knowledgeable about modern macOS internals. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree. I celebrate your accomplishments and am proud of you, but I do not see the relevance to what we have been discussing about EtreCheck putting files in the /System folder. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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| From | "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> |
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| Date | 2026-06-04 15:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n8di6tFdjflU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #183795 |
On Jun 4, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote: > Taking a page out of your book: > [Massive block of AI-generated text analyzing flight school statistics] > > I agree. I celebrate your accomplishments and am proud of you, but I do not > see the relevance to what we have been discussing about EtreCheck putting > files in the /System folder. Did you really just copy-paste my background text into an AI model to generate a critique for you, Michael? Talk about public embarrassment. You can't even write your own responses any more while you're on holiday. Let's address the reality here: 1. You chose to reply to this background branch because you are utterly paralysed by the technical response I dropped in the main architectural branch. You still haven't explained how your mythical "user-space Finder Trash" bypasses standard UNIX permissions to clean up elevated files. 2. I have never claimed that landing a jet makes me an expert on macOS internals. My knowledge of macOS internals comes from decades of managing systems, executing binaries, and reading actual developer documentation. 3. You are the only one desperately shouting about a "/System folder." As I already corrected you on, nobody claimed EtreCheck touches the sealed, read-only system volume. The architectural risk is the standalone binary (storageHelper) sitting inside the user-writable / Applications bundle that regularly requests root execution rights. Your automated "analysis" is an entertaining smoke screen, but it doesn't change the file maths. My screenshot (https://i.ibb.co/RpKwFsy7 Screenshot-2026-06-04-at-08-40-59.png) completely demolished your claim that the binary didn't exist. If you want to discuss local privilege escalation, go reply to the actual technical message. Otherwise, let your AI wrapper enjoy the rest of your vacation for you. -- Kind regards, David
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-04 16:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a21a277$4$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #183801 |
On Jun 4, 2026 at 7:59:40 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n8di6tFdjflU1@mid.individual.net>: > On Jun 4, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote: >> Taking a page out of your book: >> [Massive block of AI-generated text analyzing flight school statistics] >> >> I agree. I celebrate your accomplishments and am proud of you, but I > do not >> see the relevance to what we have been discussing about EtreCheck putting >> files in the /System folder. > > Did you really just copy-paste my background text into an AI model to > generate a critique for you, Michael? As I said: "Taking a page out of your book" Your comments are more AI than you these days. > Talk about public embarrassment. > You can't even write your own responses any more while you're on holiday. > > Let's address the reality here: > > 1. You chose to reply to this background branch because you are utterly > paralysed by the technical response I dropped in the main architectural > branch. You still haven't explained how your mythical "user-space Finder > Trash" bypasses standard UNIX permissions to clean up elevated files. Your background is not relevant to the fact you have not shown any file in /Library. That has been the request... but you cannot find any. > 2. I have never claimed that landing a jet makes me an expert on macOS > internals. My knowledge of macOS internals comes from decades of > managing systems, executing binaries, and reading actual developer > documentation. LOL! At least you admit your other comments were not relevant, but you an expert on this? Clearly not. As I keep noting, you are looking for abnormalities when you clearly do not know what is normal. As such you are sure to fail. > > 3. You are the only one desperately shouting about a "/System folder." > As I already corrected you on, nobody claimed EtreCheck touches the > sealed, read-only system volume. The architectural risk is the > standalone binary (storageHelper) sitting inside the user-writable / > Applications bundle that regularly requests root execution rights. As noted: I meant /Library -- not /System. My error. But no evidence of anything in the /Library. > > Your automated "analysis" is an entertaining smoke screen, but it > doesn't change the file maths. My screenshot (https://i.ibb.co/RpKwFsy7 > Screenshot-2026-06-04-at-08-40-59.png) completely demolished your claim > that the binary didn't exist. Your image was not of the /Library. > > If you want to discuss local privilege escalation, go reply to the > actual technical message. Otherwise, let your AI wrapper enjoy the rest > of your vacation for you. Privilege escalation is not relevant here, or only very much tangentially so. The claim I am asking you to back is any file in the /Library. EtreCheck might have had such in the past -- but does not seem the current version does anything of the sort. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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| From | Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 03:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB461F141852BEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5> |
| In reply to | #183801 |
"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> news:n8di6tFdjflU1@mid.individual.net Thu, 04 Jun 2026 14:59:40 GMT in uk.comp.sys.mac, wrote: > On Jun 4, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote: > > Taking a page out of your book: > > [Massive block of AI-generated text analyzing flight school > > statistics] > > > > I agree. I celebrate your accomplishments and am proud of you, but I > do not > > see the relevance to what we have been discussing about EtreCheck > > putting files in the /System folder. > > Did you really just copy-paste my background text into an AI model to > generate a critique for you, Michael? Talk about public embarrassment. > You can't even write your own responses any more while you're on > holiday. Why are you taking issue with this now? You've never done so before. > 2. I have never claimed that landing a jet makes me an expert on macOS > internals. My knowledge of macOS internals comes from decades of > managing systems, executing binaries, and reading actual developer > documentation. So an end user, n00b level. As I've already described you as being. I know you don't read the developer documentation very well. You had difficulty 'installing' BugHunter. As I recall, you weren't even sure which file you should be viewing for the instructions in the first place. David, Do you remember saying that 'you were mystified how a zip file could be encrypted so that an unzip utility wouldn't recognize it as a zip file?" - Your knowledge from decades of time has not been time well spent. You infact, have wasted a considerable amount of time. Decades worth by your own words, actually. > 3. You are the only one desperately shouting about a "/System folder." > As I already corrected you on, nobody claimed EtreCheck touches the > sealed, read-only system volume. The architectural risk is the > standalone binary (storageHelper) sitting inside the user-writable / > Applications bundle that regularly requests root execution rights. There is no risk with that file being orphaned and left behind if it's deployed in the first place. Snit has tried to explain this to you several times now. For the most part, you already know I consider him to be a running joke - but, he is actually on point with regard to you due to n00b level understanding and knowledge - making a mountain out of a mole hill. You continue to do exactly that. > Your automated "analysis" is an entertaining smoke screen, but it > doesn't change the file maths. My screenshot (https://i.ibb.co/RpKwFsy7 > Screenshot-2026-06-04-at-08-40-59.png) completely demolished your claim > that the binary didn't exist. The binary is dropped under specific conditions as you've already stated. Unless you perform very specific actions within the program, it's not going to drop that file. The file doesn't pose a security threat to you when/if it's left behind because you choose to remove Etrecheck again later. It's an orphaned file at that point. Consuming a little drive space - no big deal. No threat to your machine or the contents of it. What's actually an entertaining smoke screen is your usage of AI to write most/all of your reply as you continue to demonstrate absolutely zero first hand knowledge or understanding of the subjects you continue to bring up. > If you want to discuss local privilege escalation, go reply to the > actual technical message. Otherwise, let your AI wrapper enjoy the rest > of your vacation for you. That's an entirely different subject and you have absolutely no understanding of it yourself. Stop showing your ass here, Please! -- Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference? Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference? Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 03:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a2249a9$1$33541$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #183815 |
On Jun 4, 2026 at 8:42:59 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB461F141852BEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>: > "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> news:n8di6tFdjflU1@mid.individual.net > Thu, 04 Jun 2026 14:59:40 GMT in uk.comp.sys.mac, wrote: > >> On Jun 4, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> Taking a page out of your book: >>> [Massive block of AI-generated text analyzing flight school >>> statistics] >>> >>> I agree. I celebrate your accomplishments and am proud of you, but I >> do not >>> see the relevance to what we have been discussing about EtreCheck >>> putting files in the /System folder. >> >> Did you really just copy-paste my background text into an AI model to >> generate a critique for you, Michael? Talk about public embarrassment. >> You can't even write your own responses any more while you're on >> holiday. > > Why are you taking issue with this now? You've never done so before. He is using AI and not really making much sense. So be it. > >> 2. I have never claimed that landing a jet makes me an expert on macOS >> internals. My knowledge of macOS internals comes from decades of >> managing systems, executing binaries, and reading actual developer >> documentation. > > So an end user, n00b level. As I've already described you as being. I know > you don't read the developer documentation very well. You had difficulty > 'installing' BugHunter. As I recall, you weren't even sure which file you > should be viewing for the instructions in the first place. > > David, Do you remember saying that 'you were mystified how a zip file > could be encrypted so that an unzip utility wouldn't recognize it as a zip > file?" - Your knowledge from decades of time has not been time well spent. > You infact, have wasted a considerable amount of time. Decades worth by > your own words, actually. > >> 3. You are the only one desperately shouting about a "/System folder." >> As I already corrected you on, nobody claimed EtreCheck touches the >> sealed, read-only system volume. The architectural risk is the >> standalone binary (storageHelper) sitting inside the user-writable / >> Applications bundle that regularly requests root execution rights. > > There is no risk with that file being orphaned and left behind if it's > deployed in the first place. Snit has tried to explain this to you several > times now. For the most part, you already know I consider him to be a > running joke - but, he is actually on point with regard to you due to n00b > level understanding and knowledge - making a mountain out of a mole hill. > You continue to do exactly that. OK, fair enough (other than your insults, but you are dealing with your insecurities, so I'll let it go). > >> Your automated "analysis" is an entertaining smoke screen, but it >> doesn't change the file maths. My screenshot (https://i.ibb.co/RpKwFsy7 >> Screenshot-2026-06-04-at-08-40-59.png) completely demolished your claim >> that the binary didn't exist. > > The binary is dropped under specific conditions as you've already stated. > Unless you perform very specific actions within the program, it's not > going to drop that file. > > The file doesn't pose a security threat to you when/if it's left behind > because you choose to remove Etrecheck again later. It's an orphaned file > at that point. Consuming a little drive space - no big deal. No threat to > your machine or the contents of it. And not even left behind on modern macOS with modern apps. > > What's actually an entertaining smoke screen is your usage of AI to write > most/all of your reply as you continue to demonstrate absolutely zero > first hand knowledge or understanding of the subjects you continue to > bring up. Sadly I agree here. > >> If you want to discuss local privilege escalation, go reply to the >> actual technical message. Otherwise, let your AI wrapper enjoy the rest >> of your vacation for you. > > That's an entirely different subject and you have absolutely no > understanding of it yourself. Stop showing your ass here, Please! For once we are largely in agreement. I guess we owe David a thanks for that. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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| From | "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> |
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| Date | 2026-06-04 08:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n8cnm2F9htmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #183786 |
On 03/06/2026 21:22, Gremlin wrote: > Stopped when the "powers that be" > thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or my > crew!). Oh dear, Dustin. You've gone to all that effort to dig up a 2006 post, and you still managed to miss the dry British military humour completely. Anyone who has served knows that "before I kill someone other than the enemy" is a classic, self-deprecating joke about the sheer difficulty of fast-jet training. It's how we laugh about the brutal pipeline that washes out the vast majority of students. There was no drama, no scandal, and no "kick out"—just a standard administrative transfer to Air Traffic Control, followed by a very successful 20-year naval career and promotion to Lieutenant Commander. I’m happy to let my official service record and logbook stand against your colourful imagination! -- David
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-04 13:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a218449$3$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #183791 |
On Jun 4, 2026 at 12:26:58 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n8cnm2F9htmU1@mid.individual.net>: > On 03/06/2026 21:22, Gremlin wrote: >> Stopped when the "powers that be" >> thought I might kill someone 'other than the enemy' (myself and/or my >> crew!). > > > Oh dear, Dustin. You've gone to all that effort to dig up a 2006 post, > and you still managed to miss the dry British military humour completely. > > Anyone who has served knows that "before I kill someone other than the > enemy" is a classic, self-deprecating joke about the sheer difficulty of > fast-jet training. It's how we laugh about the brutal pipeline that > washes out the vast majority of students. > > There was no drama, no scandal, and no "kick out"—just a standard > administrative transfer to Air Traffic Control, followed by a very > successful 20-year naval career and promotion to Lieutenant Commander. > > I’m happy to let my official service record and logbook stand against > your colourful imagination! The more Gremlin posts the more he shows how little he understands what he reads. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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