Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: David Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.security,uk.comp.sys.mac,"windows 10" Subject: Re: Last chance for Windows Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 21:30:41 +0000 Lines: 131 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 3C2ESpq/df5M+2GsfFVxGAUJjJVKBJ4VdUaoPF6/dpGdPe+TNa Cancel-Lock: sha1:CoW6rp1VCWBMfBjPebmqtYmC1ow= sha256:ieotwdMVdQF/kFUJqB/bvYYQY/5u6vUaNRoxpE4IN1E= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com uk.comp.security:110 uk.comp.sys.mac:180139 On 31/01/2025 18:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: > FromTheRafters wrote on 1/31/25 9:08 AM: >> on 1/31/2025, David supposed : >>> On 31/01/2025 12:41, Chris wrote: >>>> John C. wrote: >>>>> First of all, please note that I'm *not* asking for help in dealing >>>>> with >>>>> any of the issues I mention in this post. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know why I'm bothering to write this. I guess I'm just >>>>> exasperated with all the problems I've been having with Windows 10 >>>>> Pro. >>>>> In all the time I've been using Windows (since 3.0), it's never been >>>>> this bad. >>>>> >>>>> Currently I am suffering from a corrupt user account profile. I don't >>>>> know how this occurred, but I do know how to deal with it. And it's a >>>>> huge task migrating doing so, involving migration of settings to a new >>>>> account. But this isn't the only issue I'm experiencing. >>>>> >>>>> I also have a corrupt install of OneDrive on my system. This Microsoft >>>>> malware is definitely installed, but I can't remove it because it's >>>>> not >>>>> listed in Programs and Features or Settings/Apps. Thus, I can't >>>>> uninstall it. And yes, this Microsoft malware exists on my SSD but >>>>> attempting to simply delete its folders fails. And no, I don't have a >>>>> malware infection from another source. >>>>> >>>>> This second problem is so bad, that I'm now going to have to do a >>>>> completely fresh reinstall of W10 Pro and all my programs. I know >>>>> how to >>>>> do this, so PLEASE, no advice. I already have researched this ad >>>>> nauseum. >>>>> >>>>> So here's what I have to say: >>>>> >>>>> IMHO, here are reasons why Windows has reached a point where it's no >>>>> longer a viable operating system for me: >>>>> >>>>> -Windows code has gotten so complex that at this point, it's >>>>> impossible >>>>> for Microsoft to maintain. >>>>> >>>>> -Forced updates have cause issues for so many end-users, that many >>>>> people have simply given up and moved to either Apple or Linux. >>>>> >>>>> -Feature elimination and overall regressions in functionality have led >>>>> to to a failure on the part of the OS to do its job. >>>>> >>>>> -Microsoft's not-so-hidden agendas of: >>>>> 1. being so obsessed with maximizing their profits that they see end >>>>> users basically only as opponent to that goal >>>>> 2. acquiring information about end users WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION >>>>> 3. cooperating with three-letter-agencies around the world to provide >>>>> them with that information >>>>> >>>>> continually lead to their making seriously bad OS development choices. >>>>> >>>>> And now, on top of all this, Microsoft has been taken over by the >>>>> country of India. If you don't believe me, of course you're free to >>>>> disagree but IMO you're simply wrong. This takeover is blatantly >>>>> obvious >>>>> to anybody with half a brain. >>>>> >>>>> At any rate, this fresh reinstall of Windows that I'm about to embark >>>>> upon is the last chance I will be giving to Microsoft and Windows. >>>>> If it >>>>> fails for *any* reason, I will follow others in migrating away it. >>>> >>>> I would certainly recommend macOS because for those of us that have >>>> to use >>>> MS tools for work they are much more stable on macOS. I think it's >>>> to do >>>> with the fact they can't have hooks all over the OS like they do in >>>> windows >>>> so stick to their corner and just work. That does include oneDrive and >>>> Sharepoint. >>> >>> As you know, Chris, I migrated to macOS when I bought my first iMac in >>> 2009. Just as you say, for the most part, my Mac "just works"! >>> >>> What I did NOT realise, until this past week, is that Microsoft's >>> oneDrive is the equivalent of Apple's iCloud! >> >> Equivalent meaning 'cloud storage' then yes. >> >>> Am I right in thinking that neither Microsoft, nor any third-party >>> scanner, can access and scan for malware any file stored in/on >>> 'oneDrive'? >> >> Unless the scanner also cracks the encryption, which they cannot, >> scanning won't find anything. You should decrypt and scan locally >> before executing. >> >>> In other words, a great place for malware to hide! >> >> Data at rest cannot do anything untoward. > > OneDrive >  => Files are scanned by the Exchange Platform's Windows Defender > Storage when uploaded, opened, and downloaded. If Windows is the upload > source or download recipient, Windows Security(included Defender) also > scans the files(before upload, before local save or sync). Additionally, > unless excluded, automatic Windows Security 'Quick Scan', or manual > 'Full Scan', scans OneDrive local folder(existing, synced files). > Windows Security 'Custom Scan' scans the user choice of files and/or > folders. Of this I was completely unaware. If Microsoft can do this (and I have no reason to doubt your word) it doesn't take too much imagination to recognise that, if they wish, Microsoft can monitor and understand everything that a computer user does if the user connects their computer to the Internet. > Windows 10 group removed. Not Win10 unique, its been the same for > OneDrive and SkyDrive ever since the backend server was switched to the > Exchange Platform circa Win8 release and backported to support Windows > 7(OneDrive installable program) and Microsoft Win7 included Security > Essentials. Thank you. Two groups added and Windows 10 replaced. If Microsoft can, and DO, do this, why does Apple not have a similar ability? *Somebody* might know! -- David