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| From | "It's Not Too Late To Stop" <gay-perverts@nbc.com> |
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| Subject | How Homosexualists Redefine Homosexual Child Molesting - Part I |
| Message-ID | <bec4871b86b94aa85b7ba0f67351b260@dizum.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2015-06-10 03:41 +0200 |
| Newsgroups | scout.be.meeting, scout.be.members, scout.be.org.fos |
| Organization | dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider |
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To support their agenda of selling homosexuality and homosexual marriage to the people, the homosexualists have come up with the idea of changing the meaning of the words "homosexuality," "homosexual," "pedophile," and the phrase, "child molesting." The purpose is to try to avoid the effect of the statistics and information showing the strikingly high percentage of homosexuals that engage in child molesting in comparison to heterosexuals. The definition I use for homosexuality is a simple one: 1. Sexual orientation to persons of the same sex. 2. Sexual activity with another of the same sex. This definition above is from the American Heritage Dictionary of my Microsoft Bookshelf (1999) computer program. This is the exact same definition as Webster's New Twentieth Century Dictionary – Unabridged (1954), and is consistent with the present Wikipedia definition.[1] Please note that there is no exception or qualification for the age of either of the parties. It is a definition supported by common sense and for that reason has stood for centuries. But the homosexualists now want to change this definition. Although one of the most liberal of the encyclopedias, Wikipedia, has not seen fit yet to limit its definition of homosexuality by excluding those who have same sex contacts or attractions to young people of the same sex, I am sure it very well might make that change, when notified of more recent gyrations of those pushing the homosexual agenda. They want to do just that. The definition of homosexual from the American Heritage Dictionary is simply: Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex. Again we see that there is no qualification or limitation of any kind. Why do they want to change the definition of homosexuality in that way? Simply put, the truth is too damaging to their agenda of selling homosexual perversion to the public. They need to try to change the statistics that show that homosexuals have same- sex contacts with children (those legally underage to consent to sex with a person who is not underage) at a rate of 10 to 30 times higher than heterosexuals, using a comparison based on population weighting by the percentage of people that are homosexuals.[2] As we will see, some studies show even higher rates. From my studies, Paul Cameron, Ph.D., a psychologist, and the Family Research Institute which he founded, have done more reliable research on this subject then anyone, and many other studies show similar information. As Dr Cameron stated: If 2% of the population is responsible for 20% to 40% of something as socially and personally troubling as child molestation, then something must be desperately wrong with that 2%.[3] The thing that is wrong with homosexuals is that they are pathologically sick, and this was recognized for over a century[4], and only changed after extreme pressure was brought against professional organizations, including the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association. This pressure, including violence, began with the homosexual movement in the 1960s.[5] The sexual organs of men and women were made for a male to have sex with a female. The desire of a man to have sex with another man, or a woman to have sex with another woman, is against nature. The simple definition of a pedophile from the American Heritage Dictionary is: An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children. It is interesting that in Webster's New Twentieth Century Dictionary – Unabridged (1954), Pedo is one word, and the suffix, -phile, is separate, but when put together the meaning is the same as the above. In Wikipedia, there is no definition of pedophile, but in the long dissertation on pedophilia, there is this statement: In law enforcement, the term "pedophile" is generally used to describe those accused or convicted of the sexual abuse of a minor (including both prepubescent children and adolescent minors younger than the local age of consent).[6] So we see that by common definition, and by common sense, there is nothing that limits the age of the victim to prepubescent children, nor is there any qualification about whether the offender is a homosexual or a heterosexual. Now pressure will be brought to adopt this new false propaganda about homosexuality and pedophilia. ------------------------------------------------------ There is an article, Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation,[7] setting out the claims of the homosexualists on the homosexualist website of Dr. Gregory M. Herek. This is a comprehensive article showing the illogical and ridiculous basis for not calling a person having sex with an underage person of the same sex a homosexual act. I will assume that the article was written by Herek, since it is on his website, and no other author is given. Certainly he is responsible for it, and it sets forth his views. The following is a discussion of that article. The new qualifications and restrictions they want to put on defining homosexual are shown by the following quotes from the article: Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males. [Emphasis added on all.] The above sets up practically impossible tests. It purposefully eliminates all of the common statistics on homosexual child abuse, which are merely same-sex relations where the perpetrator was over the age of consent, and the victim was under the age of consent. This is the exact purpose of all of these new definitions. People who believe their garbage have abandoned all sense of reason. As stated above, the common definition of pedophilia is: Sexual attraction felt by an adult toward a child or children. You will note that no age limit or age categories are given in the definition. In criminal convictions for acts of pedophiles, the crime is defined as an adult, or person over the age of consent, having sex with one under the age of consent. Herek and other homosexualists wish to set up their own definition. It is obviously done for the purpose of their agenda. Herek is probably the most prominent of this group, and his ideas are typical. Near the beginning of the article are some rather ridiculous but serious implications. These are the statements: In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. ... It has also been raised in connection with scandals about the Catholic church's attempts to cover up the abuse of young males by priests. Indeed, the Vatican's early response to the 2002 revelations of widespread Church cover-ups of sexual abuse by priests was to declare that gay men should not be ordained. The argument is that these offending Scoutmasters and Catholic Priests are not child molesters, because the young people were above puberty; and therefore homosexuals are not child molesters and should be made Priests and Scoutmasters. This would give them even easier access to prey on young people than they had when these offenses were committed. At the time of the offenses, such people were not openly allowed as Priests or Scoutmasters, but many managed to slip under the screen. It doesn't matter whether you call them pedophiles or not, they were still homosexuals and were very dangerous because of there perverted propensities. Apparently Herek and his kind see nothing wrong with these Catholic Priests and Scoutmasters seducing and having sex with young boys under their influence and care, merely because they weren't very small children. Many Catholic Priests and Scoutmasters, and Assistant Scoutmasters, were prosecuted because the victims were under age. Herek makes these comments: Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. ... [Emphasis added] Now we see a statement that gives us a key to the above false statement: In scandals involving the Catholic church, the victims of sexual abuse were often adolescent boys rather than small children. Similarly, the 2006 congressional page scandal involved males who were at least 16 years old. [Emphasis added] The above statement certainly shows the mindset of these homosexualists. Of course many of the abused children were adolescents and not preadolescent. But they were still children and were abused by homosexuals who were in an authoritative position over them. The perpetrators were certainly recognized as child molesters under the law. In the book, As We Sodomize America, extensive and detailed information is given about these offenses and many others.[8] Both the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts were out millions of dollars because of these terrible offenses by homosexuals. Also, the homosexuals have continually worked to try to lower the age of consent so that they could not be prosecuted for such offenses, and could more freely prey on the youth of our country.[9] I am sure that Herek and his kind are for lowering the age of consent, because they argue here that these homosexuals are not even child molesters. This tells us what they really are, and how trustworthy they are. The following is the definition that Herek, to support his agenda, wants us to use: Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty. [Emphasis added.] So we see the key to their argument. First they want to exclude from the definition of pedophile all offenders who are not shown to have "a preference for prepubescent children." Here we have two things added to their pedophile definition. 1. A preference for such children must be shown – the fact that they molest such children is not sufficient. 2. There is a lower age cutoff – the children must be prepubescent. But this is not all. They then want to add so many other qualifications that it would make statistical determinations all but impossible. To call them a pedophile, we must show that the offender has "enduring primary preference for children as sexual partners" And to be "children" they must be prepubescent, as stated above. Even a homosexual who commits same-sex molestations on prepubescent children cannot be called a pedophile, unless this enduring primary preference is shown. What absurdity! Using common or legal definitions for pedophile will not fit their agenda. They have to use definitions such as the above to try to manipulate and attack the well supported statistics that show the disproportionate number, weighted by the percentage of homosexuals there are in the population, of same sex (homosexual) attacks on underage children, as compared to the number of opposite sex (heterosexual) attacks on such youth. These ideas developed comparatively recently, as they had made little headway until after I wrote As We Sodomize America which was published in 2001. Although they haven't yet, because of the influence the homosexualists have on the media and academia, it could well be that in the future the dictionaries and encyclopedias will start using definitions to comply with this homosexual agenda. It is a part of the agenda to rewrite both the Bible and our dictionaries so that derogatory things against homosexuality will be removed.[10] Judeo-Christian values, and the integrity supported by them, are abandoned by these people. These writings and ideas of Dr. Herek are prime examples. All of these technical classifications make little difference anyway. I believe that they are merely to confuse the people. Same-sex child molesting is homosexual child molesting. To further support his agenda, Herek makes the unsupported statement: The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. [Emphasis added] As I will show later in the article, the above statement is contrary to relevant studies; and even if it were true, it would not change anything. Then meaningless research such as the following is relied on by Herek: "All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners." This would necessarily eliminate many homosexuals, because many homosexuals have a particular interest in younger people, just as many heterosexuals have an interest in younger people, and many of both have sexual attractions to children, although the homosexual molestations are much greater than the heterosexual, weighted by population. This does not make them something besides homosexuals or heterosexuals. I regard these things as purposely done to deceive the public. The Herek article states: In a more recent review, Dr. Nathaniel McConaghy (1998) similarly cautioned against confusing homosexuality with pedophilia. He noted, "The man who offends against prepubertal or immediately postpubertal boys is typically not sexually interested in older men or in women" (p. 259). This well known lack of a linkage between homosexuality and child molestation accounts for why relatively little research has directly addressed the issue. ... I consider the statement about the pedophiles not having any interest in older men or women to be false. It is well established that many pedophiles have been married and had relations with older people, or have had grown homosexual partners. In fact there have been both homosexual and heterosexual attacks by married people on their own children, and on children of close family members. If you have paid attention to newspapers over the years you would know that. The above is also false because a very great amount of research has been done on the subject. They are comparisons between same sex (homosexual) molestation of children and opposite sex (heterosexual) molestation of children. It is contrary to the findings of people that have worked with homosexuals, and who have done research to determine what causes homosexuality. It is also contrary to the research and findings of Dr. Judith Reisman. Specific information supporting this will be presented later in this article. Such statements also do not change the facts that same sex molestations are homosexual, and opposite sex molestations are heterosexual. Because of their agenda, they try to obfuscate the issues, and make us believe the opposite of the truth. In addition, not all boys above the age of "immediately post pubertal boys" are over the age of consent. Most, if not all, of the boys molested by Catholic Priests and the boys molested by Scoutmasters and Assistant Scoutmaster, and for which they were prosecuted, were in their teens and had reached puberty. Homosexualists would like to have us ignore these well established facts. What these people want to do is to set up so many exceptions and qualifications that meaningful research on the subject would be nigh unto impossible, and much would depend on the self-serving subjective statements of the perpetrators. I don't see how any of this could make sense to any reasonable person. Herek's article is full of statements about how well homosexuals function in jobs, and such, with no references or support, and which if true would still be irrelevant to the subject. Herek takes up a paper of Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D., Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse[11]. Herek's attempt to refute this article is both pitiful and deceitful. He completely ignored the most critical information presented in the article. Herek makes the statement: This article is discussed above in the "Other Approaches" section. As the FRC concedes, it contradicts their argument. The abstract summarizes the authors' conclusion: "Findings indicate that homosexual males who preferred mature partners responded no more to male children than heterosexual males who preferred mature partners responded to female children." The statement that "FRC concedes it contradicts their argument" is false. In fact Dailey pointedly explains why such a statement from Freund was inapplicable, in footnote 17, stating: "The Freund et al. (1973) study was possibly compromised because the homosexual men used in the study were selected to be sexually attracted to adults, but not teenaged, males." Herek's deceit continues in his discussion of the Silverthorne & Quinsey reference. In any studies like this where selection is made to get favorable samples in the first place, they are unreliable on their face. Likewise, where people are informed of the purpose of the studies where they are shown pictures and asked questions, untrue answers are invited. None of this has the reliability of research which people like Dailey and Dr. Paul Cameron rely on which are statistics on known child molesters, who are so compelled to commit such acts that they do them knowing the possible very serious consequences. When you limit your studies to " homosexual males who preferred mature partners" you pretty well eliminate all child molesters, and when you add to this the fact that the people in the studies were informed of the purpose, which many were, and they would have to know anyway, you see how completely meaningless all such "studies" are. Their only purpose is to build statistics to fit the homosexual agenda. On the Blanchard et al studies Herek says: This study categorized convicted sex offenders according to whether they molested or reported sexual attraction to boys only, girls only, or both boys and girls. ... Adult sexual orientation (or even whether the men had an adult sexual orientation) wasn't assessed. Here we see rather clearly how Herek tries to get around the fact that the attacks were homosexual because they were same- sex. The degree of adult sexual attraction is immaterial to the fact that with common sense, and any long accepted definitions, it is clear that the offenses were by homosexual pedophiles. All of Herek's double talk and new definitions do not change these facts. Herek continues his misstatements on the Elliot et al studies referred to by Dailey: Their sexual orientation (gay, heterosexual, bisexual) wasn't assessed. What Dailey said was: A study of male child sex offenders in Child Abuse and Neglect found that fourteen percent targeted only males, and a further 28 percent chose males as well as females as victims, thus indicating that 42 percent of male pedophiles engaged in homosexual molestation The sexual orientation was clearly assessed. Common sense and ordinary definitions were used instead of Herek's special tests. It becomes seemingly impossible for Herek to make a fair presentation of anything. On a "Jenny" study he says: The FRC faults the study because the researchers didn't directly interview perpetrators but instead relied on the victims' medical charts for information about the offender's sexual orientation. Dr. Dailey's article fully explains the Jenny studies, and the special definitions they use for their agenda of defining homosexuals and pedophiles, which are so exclusive that rarely could there be a homosexual pedophile. The article states: Are Men Who Molest Boys Really 'Homosexuals'? Gay Apologists Insist on a Simplistic Stereotype of Pedophilia Central to the attempts to separate homosexuality from pedophilia is the claim that pedophiles cannot, by definition, be considered homosexuals. Relying upon a questionable methodology, the gay advocacy organization Human Rights Campaign published a "Fact Sheet on Sexual Orientation and Child Abuse," that states: "A sexual abuser who molests a child of the same sex is usually not considered homosexual." The basis for this claim is the view that pedophiles who molest boys cannot be considered homosexual if that individual has at any time been married or sexually involved with women.
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