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  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-18 11:15 -0600
    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-18 11:40 -0600
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-19 12:27 -0600
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-19 21:03 -0600
          Brains ReWire, to adapt to whatever it is we're doing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-20 03:49 -0800
            Re: Brains ReWire, to adapt to whatever it is we're doing. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-20 08:13 -0600
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-20 02:52 -0800
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-20 09:58 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-20 12:59 -0800
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-21 12:43 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-21 13:47 -0600
            "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-21 18:42 -0800
              Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 00:02 -0800
                Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 09:11 -0600
                  Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 09:23 -0600
                    Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 10:13 -0600
                      Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 14:20 -0600
                  Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-22 13:33 -0500
                    My nose is too flat ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-22 12:14 -0800
                      Re: My nose is too flat ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 14:34 -0600
                        Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-22 14:50 -0800
                          Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-22 16:56 -0600
                            Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-11-22 21:28 -0500
                          Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 22:29 -0600
                            Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 22:56 -0600
                              Expell too much co2, & you drop like a fly. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-23 01:43 -0800
                                Re: Expell too much co2, & you drop like a fly. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-23 03:14 -0800
                  Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 15:15 -0800
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 09:53 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-21 15:09 -0600
            The value of an airplane is not measured in pounds. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-21 19:04 -0800
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 11:44 -0600
              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-23 12:41 -0600
                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-23 14:59 -0500
                Stagflation at the end of 2019, in Iran. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-24 02:49 -0800
                  Re: Stagflation at the end of 2019, in Iran. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-24 04:51 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 12:11 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 13:24 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 13:51 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-24 10:25 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-24 12:44 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-25 09:31 -0600
              Yet another FlyByNight Apocalypse cult has enveloped Earth. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-25 09:15 -0800
                Re: Yet another FlyByNight Apocalypse cult has enveloped Earth. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-25 11:35 -0600
                  Re: Yet another FlyByNight Apocalypse cult has enveloped Earth. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2021-11-25 12:42 -0500
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-26 21:48 -0600
              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-27 19:23 -0600
                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 14:03 -0600
                  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 13:17 -0600
                    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 11:31 -0600
                      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 14:32 -0600
                        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 14:52 -0600
                          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 17:12 -0800
                          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 00:05 -0600
                            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 09:25 -0600
                              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 12:07 -0800
                                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 20:05 -0800
                            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 10:50 -0600
                              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 14:00 -0600
                                How are you Iranians better off than me, here in Seattle ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-05 13:13 -0800
                                  Re: How are you Iranians better off than me, here in Seattle ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-12-05 16:35 -0600
                                  Re: How are you Iranians better off than me, here in Seattle ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 19:50 -0600
                                    Would you be better off in Iran, with your family ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-05 21:21 -0800
                                      Re: Would you be better off in Iran, with your family ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 08:39 -0600
                                        Re: Would you be better off in Iran, with your family ? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-12-13 17:58 -0600
                                          Tehran consums 4 metric tons of opium per _Day_. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-13 18:06 -0800
                                            Re: Tehran consums 4 metric tons of opium per _Day_. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2021-12-13 21:09 -0500
                                              Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-13 18:57 -0800
                                                Re: Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2021-12-14 07:42 -0500
                                                Re: Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 10:05 -0600
                                                  Re: Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-12-14 10:17 -0600
                                                  Re: Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-15 09:16 -0600
                                                    What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-15 07:23 -0800
                                                      Re: What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-15 09:58 -0600
                                                        Some (Shia) Iranians won't speak of Israel. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-15 08:21 -0800
                                                      Re: What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-12-15 10:23 -0600
                                                      Re: What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-12-15 19:44 -0700
                                                        Re: What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-16 10:35 -0600
                                          Re: Would you be better off in Iran, with your family ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-12-13 22:22 -0600
                                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 20:29 -0600
                                  24/7 draft beer, drink it on the street. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-05 21:41 -0800
                                    Sharia Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-07 16:29 -0800
                                      Re: Sharia vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2021-12-08 10:03 +0000
                                        24/7 beer, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-08 02:51 -0800
                                          Re: 24/7 beer, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 08:22 -0600
                                  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 13:06 -0600
                                    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 13:35 -0600
                                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 21:45 -0600
                                  Your Analytics Compartments :-) Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-06 20:05 -0800
                                  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 22:35 -0600
                                    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 23:39 -0600
                                      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 12:29 -0600
                                        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 10:24 -0600
                                          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-11 19:36 -0600
                                            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-13 12:46 -0600

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#837509 — 24/7 draft beer, drink it on the street.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-12-05 21:41 -0800
Subject24/7 draft beer, drink it on the street.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--9.41pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#837502
ClutterFreak:
> An American CH is the same dimwit that he's ever been, 
> living inside the same shell just like their fathers 
> and grandfathers had done in their turns.

In Tokyo, you can walk into a 24/7 automated booth,
poor yourself a mug of beer & walk away, drinking it;
no store attendant, no door.

Why is it like that Tokyo, but not Iran ?

Does (ancient) Sharia have anything to do with it ?

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#837733 — Sharia

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-12-07 16:29 -0800
SubjectSharia
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--4.29pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#837509
I asked my Iranian "friend", ClutterFreak,
living in Dallas:

  Why does beer flow freely in Tokyo, but not Iran ?
  Does (ancient) Sharia have anything to do with it ?

ScottRando replied:
> Okay, so you're mentioning walk-up beer booths in
> Japan, but no, you don't care about the beer.
> Any other Rando ideas you need to get off your chest?

ClutterFreak keeps saying:
> CH hasn't changed one bit from Roman times to 1860's !

Hence Sharia, in Iran.

In Japan, women show skin, yet nothing bad happens.  Why is that ?

Draft beer is dispensed automatically, 24/7, on the street; 
no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.
Yet nothing bad happens.   Again:   Why is that ?

ScottRando will reply:

  I need more mind altering drugs.
  Let's organize another looting tonight, dogs.
  https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/looters-target-california-pot-shops-steal-5-million-product

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#837807 — Re: Sharia

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2021-12-08 10:03 +0000
SubjectRe: Sharia
Message-ID<j1be6oF3nhkU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#837733
On Tue, 07 Dec 2021 16:29:06 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> I asked my Iranian "friend", ClutterFreak,
> living in Dallas:
> 
>   Why does beer flow freely in Tokyo, but not Iran ?
>   Does (ancient) Sharia have anything to do with it ?
> 
> ScottRando replied:
>> Okay, so you're mentioning walk-up beer booths in Japan, but no, you
>> don't care about the beer.
>> Any other Rando ideas you need to get off your chest?
> 
> ClutterFreak keeps saying:
>> CH hasn't changed one bit from Roman times to 1860's !
> 
> Hence Sharia, in Iran.
> 
> In Japan, women show skin, yet nothing bad happens.  Why is that ?
> 
> Draft beer is dispensed automatically, 24/7, on the street;
> no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.
> Yet nothing bad happens.   Again:   Why is that ?

Different culture.  Also:  citation needed, I suspect you are
stretching the truth a bit.

> 
> ScottRando will reply:

No I won't.

> 
>   I need more mind altering drugs.
>   Let's organize another looting tonight, dogs.
>   https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/looters-target-california-pot-shops-steal-5-million-product

Parataxic distortion, JeffRando.

The Problem is Extremism:

https://theproblemisextremism.org/?p=56

fu2: cola

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#837808 — 24/7 beer, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-12-08 02:51 -0800
Subject24/7 beer, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.8--2.51am.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#837807
You (ScottRando) replied ( to me ):
> > Re:  Tokyo vs Sharia in Iran.
> > Draft beer is dispensed automatically, 24/7, on the street;
> > no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.
> > Yet nothing bad happens.   Again:   Why is that ?
> 
> citation needed, I suspect you are
> stretching the truth a bit.

Famously, Japan has vending machines for everything, including beer,
& you can drink it as you walk along the street, no problem.

Check the end of this video, @ 14:30
" Hidden Japanese Street Food Tour in Tokyo Ebisu ":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLLvosz3s2Y

24/7, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.

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#837809 — Re: 24/7 beer, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-08 08:22 -0600
SubjectRe: 24/7 beer, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.
Message-ID<soqf3j$bvo$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837808
On 12/8/2021 4:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 24/7, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.

Jeff you can fuck yourself all by yourself too. You don't need Japan 
_or_ Iran.

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#837544

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-06 13:06 -0600
Message-ID<solmv7$p38$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837502
On 12/5/2021 8:29 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> 
> 




Ok, next, a fundamental function of ACOB.


Deduction Of The Imperceptible (DOTI)

ACOB in MH isn't limited to what you directly observe or sense or told 
to or are engulfed with or even are hidden from. It can also throw light 
on absolutely imperceptible facts! It does it by DOTI.

STBP is itself one of the legs of this mighty powerful function of DOTI. 
But it was so important in everyday life that I brought that as a 
function in its own right. But DOTI can do a lot more, much more; even 
in areas that everyday life has _nothing_ to do with it!

A simple example that our awesome teacher in high school 12th grade 
brought us to make us understand DOTI (we did have a "logic" class - 
Hehe :) - I didn't see one in the state of the art high school I taught 
in USA) was one I later to my surprise also saw in USA when I had the 
relativity course this time in grad school. Of course the second time we 
treated it by the exact math applied to geodesics drawn from a point on 
a curved surface.

The high school teacher used the concept of a two-dimensional being 
drawn by a tiny little circle that was warped just enough to nicely fit 
the surface of a vary large sphere. The little circle was intelligent, 
and he was three-dimensional but didn't know it :-) By all senses and 
observations he could make, he would always see and conclude that he was 
two-dimensional. But he was actually living on the surface of a sphere 
and completely part of it, so he was indeed three-dimensional.

This circle one day decided to make a couple of measurements, all 
embedded inside that surface of the sphere of course, but for him he was 
measuring stuff in just two dimensions. He proceeded as this:

- he drew a circle around him using a piece of thread that one end was 
fixed at where he stood and one end was used to mark the surface as he 
moved it all around. A perfect circle with radius "r", the length of the 
thread.

- He knew its circumference should be 2 X pi X r of course but being a 
scientist he proceeded to actually measure that circumference :)

He painstakingly measured that circle's circumference a small tiny piece 
at a time and adding all these measurements together to come up with 
circumference of the circle.

- Now the interesting part. No matter how hard he tried to measure that 
circumference, it always added up to a slightly less than 2*PI*r length! 
In fact as he decreased and decreased the length of individual pieces on 
that circumference, the resultant sum would increase but consistently 
and noticeably converged to a sum less than 2*PI*r.

The two dimensional being _concluded_ that he is indeed 3-dimensional :) 
Now he knew for a fact that he is living on the surface of a sphere 
rather than on a flat land.

This is what DOTI can do!

But whose ACOB is capable of DOTI? MH or CH? Both or just one? Look at 
the history. You see that only the MH is capable of performing DOTI.


Example 1: Relativity

CH scientific community is presently lying to you about history of 
Relativity for obvious and unique CH attributes in their ACOBs. They 
don't want you to know that they could not grasp it for decades and the 
reasoning given in both special and general relativity fields weren't 
convincing to them. They don't reprint physics books that referred to 
theory of relativity as "Relativity Hypothesis". They don't want you to 
know that after that sham in their filthy schemes were blown, they 
resorted to slip in the word "theory" in its meaning in common English 
lexicon rather than as what it meant in physics. You can see how they 
used this word in various contexts to notice that scheme!

CH "scientific community" has always been a thing of its own. It has 
nothing to do with actual science! It is a relationship between that 
faction of CH people who involved themselves with science, a group 
resembling a Christian entity. It is a form of their Church! It is a 
group-thinking entity.

And it constantly tries to correct its obvious flaws in recent past by 
hiding the past, forging fake "history of science", and placing updated 
  versions of their dogmas in front of your eyes so you don't discover 
what this community really is :) Well, with the MH around you now, good 
luck with that. Hehehe :)

For a nice exposure of just what this "scientific community" was and is 
read Gould's "Mismeasure Of Man". I have a couple of much better books 
than that one to recommend but you don't have the education to read them 
(you don't know Persian.)

As long as CH scientific community's asses could still be covering their 
own faces, they were safe (or so they thought). But now things are 
changing a little bit :)

CH doesn't do DOTI. Their confrontation with theory of relativity is a 
fine example of it. But there are a wealth of other examples of course 
in history of physics alone.


Example 2: Burning Bruno at the stake

When presented by reasoning and DOTI, CH authority responded by burning 
him at the stake. Literally burning that man!..

What does that tell you? Have you even heard of a similar act in history 
among MH? I haven't. And I've read history of MH, especially related to 
science among MH all my life starting from junior high years. I cannot 
find one example of an MH authority in Iran or India or China _burning_ 
a scientist. But examples of that among CH are indeed plenty! What does 
this tell you about these dimwits?

It tells me CH doesn't do DOTI. DOTI must have been among improvements 
that only appeared with the MH. CH is earlier human compared to MH.

If you are a sample of a CH today, make a trip to Italy, go to that 
square, and take a look at the statue standing there. It will tell you 
what you are. You won't need my help.

You CH "burn" what you don't understand. Cause it's a threat to your 
existence. Be it the Vietnamese whom you didn't understand, or the Jews 
you didn't understand, the Afghans, the Iranians, Syrians; whomever you 
resorted to burning them. Yes what you don't understand is a threat to 
your existence. Either dicks like mine, or our less _venerating_ devices 
and plans will wipe you earlier humans off of our sights; off of our 
lives. You know that and I know that, sweeties.

You are filth compared to humanity. Your ACOB compared to ours is 
_filth_. You can't survive us, and that's only as a result of what you are!

I'm not writing you dimwits off as some form of human. I don't even 
write off your Neanderthal Moms. Any creature here has a right to live 
and enjoy life. But don't come forward telling us what to do or acting 
out your shortcomings or fucking up our environment and resources. Don't 
come to us to burn us. You won't like the answers we come up with to 
take care of the problem.

You're better off letting nature do what's due, not the MH!


Next I will discuss yet another function of ACOB. Function of Seeing The 
Positive (STP) :) Got to go now.

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#837551

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-06 13:35 -0600
Message-ID<solold$puv$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837544
On 12/6/2021 1:06 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> The high school teacher used the concept of a two-dimensional being 
> drawn by a tiny little circle that was warped just enough to nicely fit 
> the surface of a vary large sphere.


I should've used the word "disc" not "circle". Reason I slipped was the 
silly fact that in Persian "circle" and "disc" are referred to by the 
same word :)

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#837605

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-06 21:45 -0600
Message-ID<somlbt$8hr$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837465
On 12/5/2021 2:00 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> Construction of the transcontinental railroad right after Civil War 
> hadn't gone smoothly among farmers on its path! Some of these farmers, 
> and I bet the CH ones among them _only_, really resisted such rails 
> being built in their farms! They could not see the immense positive 
> impact it could have on the range of areas throughout united states that 
> their products could be sold at! Utter lack of STBP.
> 
> A lot of farm products could stay fresh for a week or so, and that meant 
> they could go either way all the way to both coasts!


This is of course by no means the only big picture associated with that 
railroad system that were being built. I only mentioned the aspect about 
it that directly dealt with their business, selling their farm products. 
But there were many other important advantages that would come with that 
system. Think about human travel that could take place right from their 
lands to either directions, east and west. Arrival of news from all over 
USA! All those other newspapers that could arrive from all those other 
cities across USA. Their own newspapers could reach any other place as 
well.

And what about ideas! Ideas could travel with these trains in both 
directions. As soon as good ones were discovered these farmers would 
become aware of them via this same railroad system. People with good 
ideas would come to their places to implement them and vice versa.

And as people themselves would come and go, access to better and more 
beautiful women for marriage would be gained! ..

It was just plain stupid to resist that railroad system. Exactly as 
stupid as what the Romans did in their eastern borders on observation 
and dismissal of the advanced systems that Iranians had created and 
established for transfer of information, goods, water (via Ghanat 
system), news, people, trade, etc.

CH hadn't changed one bit from Roman times to 1860's! Same foolish 
creatures thinking of themselves they were on top of the world, and as 
impermeable to advances MH had made around them as ever. And incapable 
of STBP. How can that be? All these point to the same fact. Stuff about 
people stay that constant within species, not cultures and education 
levels and "races" crap. Species is the key answer. CH is an earlier 
_species_ of human.





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#837607

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-12-06 20:05 -0800
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--8.05pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#837605
ClutterFreak:
> CH hasn't changed one bit from Roman times to 1860's !

Hence Sharia, in Iran.

In Japan, women show skin, yet nothing bad happens.

Why is that ?

Draft beer is dispensed automatically, 24/7, on the street; 
no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer.

Yet nothing bad happens.

Again:   Why is that ?

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#837610

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-06 22:35 -0600
Message-ID<somoam$9qb$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837605
On 12/6/2021 9:45 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
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Two more examples for STBP.


Example 6: Snow flakes or astrophysics?

Recently a Caltech astrophysicist was asked why he was spending so much 
of his concern and time and effort on understanding why and how snow 
flakes form their various symmetric shapes. His answer was something 
like this:

"Nobody in all my life ever came to me to ask about an interesting fact 
in astrophysics, but as soon as people found out I know about snow flake 
designs they rushed in to ask questions and find out more about the 
subject and take advice from me; and as a matter of fact I have become 
'special consultant' for movie industries in matters concerning snow 
flakes should they need to animate some in their industries."

This should tell you CH people's concerns and interests have what limits 
to them. To be useful to these people, this astrophysicist professor 
holding his job as such in Caltech has had to revert his attention and 
time and much effort from astronomy to "snow flakes". You know, like he 
is surrounded by same people that existed 300 thousand years ago, with 
no interest in astronomy but much interest in snow flakes. The people 
back then, 300 thousand years back, were indeed CH. The ones that were 
created first by MH men mating with Neanderthal women. They were the 
first CH products of this planet and by their own nature could not 
survive the MH. Now these newer CH who've appeared since 40 thousand 
years ago (after last ice age ended) are showing exact same sentiments 
and interests about what goes on around them. Don't they.


Example 7: Sagan

Some of you my be old (or knowledgeable) enough to know Carl Sagan's 
habitual words, ".. billions and billions..". The man spent most of his 
life trying to hammer the sea of CH around him in with the fact that 
there is a big picture around them that should be noticed and be 
considered in just about everything we do so we can put things in their 
correct perspective.

To some extent he succeeded. But to what extent? I observed very clearly 
that only the MH benefited from his efforts. The CH stayed as stupid and 
dumb as they were, totally impermeable to his efforts and indeed had 
begun fighting him for that.

The CH stupidity itself has a name in USA! Do you know that name? Its 
name is Rush Limbaugh. That imbecile, that stupidity incarnate, 
Limbaugh, catered only for the CH like himself and no one else. And he 
always attacked Sagan for his works. To the last day of Sagan's life and 
to the last fucking day of his own fucking life, this imbecile attacked 
Sagan and what Sagan tried to do for the CH.

That's how impossible it is to "educate" the CH. You can educate them, 
but education has no effect on them. They still stay CH.




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#837615

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-06 23:39 -0600
Message-ID<soms1q$ca1$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837610
On 12/6/2021 10:35 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
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One more example for DOTI.


Example 6: Eliminating bias

Scientists are always hunting down bias. They have to preserve 
objectivity. Bias can be obvious but also can be totally imperceptible. 
Hence the use of DOTI in ACOB to hunt these bias down :)

You may be familiar with Blind or Double Blind studies. They're just 
examples of techniques scientists use to remove bias in their studies.

All scientists are trained in eliminating bias from their studies, but 
that doesn't mean all of them do that well enough. They may make 
mistakes, or may choose an inferior way that's easier for them, or they 
may be influenced by their previous work, or influenced with what they 
apriori know to be true, or they may have been using wikipedia for their 
sources of information instead of validated and trustworthy ones, or may 
be that they just googled something in their study.

These are complicated cases that can get tedious as well. It is not 
something felt or seen or even guessed in advance. Oftentimes these 
errors are totally imperceptible. Clear and effective techniques are 
required to find such sloppiness or errors in other scientists' works 
before relying on their finds. The procedures involved to follow to that 
end are some of the best examples of DOTI.

Many instances of activities when attribute of Patience is underway can 
be considered DOTI to find such bias in the study. I'm sure activities 
2, 4, 9, 10, and 11 all are indeed various forms of DOTI to hunt down bias.

Later in this blog I'll explain yet another function of ACOB: Review The 
Obvious :-)

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#837672

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-07 12:29 -0600
Message-ID<soo967$6hm$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837615
On 12/6/2021 11:39 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> Later in this blog I'll explain yet another function of ACOB: Review The 
> Obvious :-)




Function of Reviewing The Obvious (RTO):


What ACOB is developed by the mighty nature to tackle is an amazing set 
of tasks. And like everything physics, these tasks do not lose 
importance when you go from one to another. Never! Every one of them is 
as vital as every other one :) Just like physics laws.

"Simplicity" doesn't mean _jack_ in ACOB (and physics). This is what I'm 
aiming to say.

Whether something is difficult or simple is as relevant to ACOB (or 
physics) as CH's signature insertions of history of physics into physics 
concepts are. Totally irrelevant.

That's why MH attends to these tasks differently from the CH. MH is not 
biased towards them; CH is.

In the face of a difficulty or threat or any issue requiring ACOB to 
resolve, MH does not lose sight of the obvious! I see that CH does! :) 
It is actually another form of STBP that CH by mere being CH misses.


Example 1: Head of the center and his PhD students and professors

Back in grad school, 1980s, the head of one of the centers in that 
physics department where we studied was some extra sharp wonder of a 
human being, let alone in his physics and applied physics careers. He 
was one or two leagues above others. Just about all the professors in 
that center had an ongoing push and pull and argument with him that 
could flare up anywhere and any time, even right inside the room where 
the poor candidate was defending his thesis to become a doctor! Hehe :) 
Do you know why? Hahahahah :-)))

Cause he had pissed each and every one of them bad, and I mean BAD in 
the way he'd caught their silliest mistakes in their own works :) That's 
why.

How did he do that? He cleverly did all that, or at least most of them, 
by this very same RTO!.. Hehe :) As a matter of fact this was partly the 
way he was referred to by his best friend in the obituary the latter 
wrote for the former's passing in Physics Today magazine. The guy was 
just master of RTO.

It is all a matter of how often you miss RTO, cause everybody misses the 
obvious once in a while. If you always miss it, your ACOB is ancient, 
you are CH. But if you only on rare occasions miss it, then you are a 
mortal MH but not an MH in the league that the head of that center was. 
Cause he _never_ missed it. That's how he'd managed to piss all those 
professors off, including my own dissertation supervisor.


Example 2: MHD in my thesis

I finished three different studies in grad school but I left school 
almost right before finishing for reasons irrelevant to this blog. But 
tw/o of the studies were, each by its own, a master's degree, and the 
third was a PhD degree if I had sought them. University did give me an 
automatic "masters degree" by sheer weight of those two relatively minor 
studies because sometimes masters were given to works that didn't need 
defense. It had to do with the nature of the study. So some secretary 
told me one day that "Hey go get your MS degree from the registrar! 
They've got it made for you." which I never did of course (until more 
than 10 years after leaving school).

But the work in the third study I finished, the one for my PhD, could 
not be granted by a PhD without a formal defense and a fully written 
hard copy of the thesis. So the university's registrar department kept 
leaving phone messages for me month after month, year after year, after 
I had left the school, to come conduct the defense procedure so they 
could process the degree. I never answered the messages and they stopped 
about three years after I had left.

Now why all this. The third study involved a model I had developed for a 
phenomenon observed in higher atmosphere where the most complicated ever 
set of regimes played their hands. It pertained altitudes (and 
latitudes) at which statistical mechanics, electricity and magnetism, 
and the most complicated form of plasma physics (weakly ionized plasma), 
all played fundamental roles simultaneously. It was a difficult and 
extremely complicated study. Needless to say every now and then I'd hit 
a stone wall and could not seem to be able to pass beyond them. My 
supervisor wouldn't know what the problem was. My other dissertation 
committee members threw vague ideas and possibilities at it; i.e., they 
didn't know what the problem was either. And I myself didn't know what 
the problem was. But that head of the center I mentioned in first 
example above, he was also one of my committee, so I'd have a talk with 
him too of course.

It happened like at least two times :) I'd go to him and explain my 
issue. He'd first ask a few questions to place himself where he needed 
to be to remember and see what the work was (he had like 10 PhD students 
of his own which he directly supervised!..). Then he'd look at the 
problem and the whole study doing a quick STBP. Then right there, I mean 
within three or four minutes of my seeing him, he'd come up with one 
question: "Have you checked for such and such?" I'd notice that I indeed 
hadn't :-) Hehe :) So I'd leave his office embarrassed and with 
telltaling smiles on faces of both of us.

This "such and such" in both those occasions that I was stuck, were the 
"simplest" physics concepts that a physics student had ever learned. I 
mean almost high school stuff. And in both cases, it turned out that I 
had missed their use, their rule over events, their roles! My problem 
would disappear into thin air after checking for them and making the 
corrections.

That's why I placed the word "simplest" in last paragraph in quotation 
marks because as stated earlier these "simplest" concepts were each 
every bit as important as the most complicated stuff that I had 
successfully managed to handle in that study. Simplicity itself doesn't 
mean _anything_ in physics and every bit more so in ACOB. You just have 
to RTO just like you deal with unbelievably complicated situations.

So review these damn obvious ones too!

I miss that head of the center :-( I miss men like that. USA misses men 
like that. Now in this fucking country you go to get a scientist's 
advice and you're given an "engineer" to help you with it. So go figure 
what happened to this nation, as great as it once was.

When I (and at least 6 other contemporaries in that department that I 
know of) felt for the first time that USA was fixing to give me an 
"engineer" as boss for the rest of my life, I quit school.

So fuck you "engineers."

I look DOWN on a piece-of-shit for scientist that started to take over, 
from Reagan era and on, all the fucking jobs that scientists held. You 
wouldn't, EVER, have me and someone like me working for you! Your ass 
could never be good enough for that. So we all left, and you're now in 
another Brazil. Enjoy it like all those "engineers" in Brazil. They're 
totally at home with Brazil. And love it too! Enjoy what you made out of 
this country.


Example 3: Watson again :)

I mentioned his excellent conduct of Rearranging function of ACOB 
before. But what he did was also a nice example of RTO. In that 
interesting case, in those hot days of push and pull to see what needed 
to be done to get to the structure of DNA first and fastest, Watson's 
approach was RTO! "Do these molecules we know of _fit_ together 
physically to begin with?.." was his RTO. And we all found out THAT 
alone, later, with some rearrangements of cardboard models of these 
molecules did the job and landed him on the correct DNA structure.

And yes, you're a worm to me if you haven't read his account of that saga.


Example 4: Full cure for diabetes

If you are in my age group you should be aware of decades and decades of 
_nonsense_ various CH physicians threw at you for your heart and weight 
and diabetes problems.

Well, what do you know! Suddenly an MH from China steps in and throws 
all that nonsense into trash basket. It needed an MH for it to get done. 
Not that other MH physicians here in USA didn't know that, I'm sure all 
the Jewish physicians knew the answer but weren't allowed to touch it. 
Pharma would assassinate them if they did. So they silently made good 
money and conducted their successful lives.

But not this young Chink, mind you. His name is Jason Fung. He dared to 
open his mouth, and to this day I'm not sure why pharma let him keep 
breathing. Could be that he has ties to China's entities and men who can 
even fuck up U.S. pharma if they decide so. I don't know.

But he did it. He did an RTO! People tried it and discovered that 
diabetes has a simple cure!

I found this cure myself in the weirdest way, almost accidentally. I 
didn't know anything about some Jason Fung of course (what pharma still 
places its hopes at). Covid came and a judge in Dallas issued stay at 
home orders and suddenly the entire Dallas became like the surface of 
the Moon. Nobody there, no cars no people, no noise, no air crafts, 
nothing. I got stuck at home for the first time in my life.

But I had a job who was tied to my diabetes treatment. I needed to be 
active to the point of sweating some of the hours of the day at least. 
We called it "mapping" at work cause if your shirt was dark in color 
you'd soon see all these "maps" drawn on it by dried salt from your 
sweats Hehe :) "Go map that" meant go get your ass busy getting that 
shit done :-)

How would I do that now? My job was very active indeed. I reverted to 
long distance walking, as I described elsewhere in my blogs, out of 
sheer necessity and disdain. Cause I hated exercising the way idiots 
did. Always hated such ridiculous activity you see in gyms. My exercise 
was done for other purposes, for a much more in-depth reasons via the 
Pilates I did twice a day with some Persian translation of a scientific 
German book that had been published decades ago. Problem was that 
Pilates wouldn't resolve my diabetes needs at all. It has totally 
different goals to it.

But gradually I got interested in doing some simple experimentation with 
my new way of life. I noticed I was eating less and yet I could do a 
mighty job in long distance walking. So I tried a few things. I reduced 
my eating to only twice per day with nothing but water in between (had 
already eliminated sugar and starch by RTO). I noticed nothing happened. 
I still did the walks like before without feeling greater lack of 
energy. Then I decided to try just eating once :) To my surprise I 
experienced a slight _surge_ in energy! Strange as it was, I not only 
did those long walks without problem, they became easier for me to do 
them. Noticeably less total fatigue when I stepped back in my house.

Obviously I pushed it yet another bit to see what happens. I tried 
eating just once every other day :-)) At this point my sister in skype 
was begging me to stop the madness. Hahahhah :-) My brothers like always 
didn't give a damn. But I continued it and noticed that either my energy 
had again jumped slightly higher than before or at least stayed as high 
as it was when I ate once per day.

So I continued this once per every other day meal to see if there are 
long term consequences to it. It wasn't easy at first, and I only had 
water to drink in between to make the test meaningful. One little gulp 
of fruit juice would fuck the whole study up. But it got easier and 
easier later. There were none, no long term effects! THAT got me 
interested enough to begin serious thinking. I began a formal research 
to see what that meant. It was at this point that I discovered Jason 
Fung and a whole other newly emerged medical scientists who now (after 
Fung said it all and broken the taboo) were promoting Fung's methods. So 
to my delight I found out they were saying diabetes can be "reversed" to 
the point of total recovery and get fully cured! It was shocking news 
for me.

So I immediately began checking. I stopped all my meds and waited about 
a week for my body to adjust for it. Then I checked my sugar in two-hour 
intervals throughout the day for a week or so, just like what I'd done 
decades earlier when I first developed diabetes to get the best picture 
of what my body was doing. I saw with my own eyes, and got fully 
convinced that I had already cured my diabetes!

It turned out Fung was absolutely right. Diabetes was just a problem of 
body's increased tolerance of insulin forming cells towards all that 
sugar that's put into it all the time throughout every day. Just like 
any other addiction! So the way back was to stop the _frequency_ of 
eating, the frequency of _invoking_ those special cells, and not 
necessarily what you ate at each meal or how much of it. It was this 
frequency that rendered those cells ineffective by creating tolerance in 
them. You cut the number of times you eat per week and those cells 
immediately begin the road back to full effective state again in just a 
few months. Again like in any other form of addiction.

You must avoid stuff that were introduced to human from the advent of 
agriculture as well. No starchy stuff, not sugar. Human could never get 
too much sugar from fruits that were available to him in wild form. All 
these extra sweet large fruits came as a result of genetic control by 
farmers after agriculture began. But this was not the surprising part to 
me. I already observed such avoidance before. But reaching a _cure_ by 
reducing the frequency was news to me. Big surprising news. Great news 
indeed.

Fung did his with nothing but RTO. The obvious that everybody was 
missing (and experts weren't allowed to speak of) was reviewed by this 
physician and resulted in the reversal and cure for diabetes for those 
who know better.


Got to go.













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#837827

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-08 10:24 -0600
Message-ID<soqm81$g7t$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837672
On 12/7/2021 12:29 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
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I mentioned earlier that there are plenty of examples in physics history 
alone that show just what the CH scientific community as a whole has 
always been and how they've not been capable of doing DOTI when called for.

Now one more example for DOTI.


Example 7: Black body radiation

Just like reaction to theory of relativity a couple of decades later, 
the CH scientific community had reacted exactly the same way towards the 
unbelievably enlightening finding that radiation energy per second for 
various frequencies doesn't just keep going up and up as frequency 
increases; i.e., something that perception and logic would lead one to 
believe, and indeed was theoretically shown to be true as well.

As soon as results of that first measurement experiment came out showing 
reality was otherwise, DOTI was called for. But only a handful of MH 
scientists managed to use it to find out why! The entire CH scientific 
community stayed in dark and just whined about it. And again just like 
the theory of relativity, they later did everything possible to rewrite 
the physics history to hide their past actions in this regard. A mere 
Church.


So this example is indeed a good example of DOTI, and I've mentioned 
this before also, both decades earlier in this same forum and a couple 
of times later in this forum. Here I bring it as an application of DOTI 
function in MH's ACOB.

Classical physics in 19th century had predicted that thermal radiation 
energy per second from a body at a particular temperature is 
proportional to square of the frequency of that radiation. This had been 
derived with certainty from the then believed fully developed and 
correct physics. Everybody would bet their boots on it. So a graph of 
radiation energy per second vs frequency would be a parabola, with 
radiated energy very quickly increasing with increasing frequency (all 
for same temperature).

Then somebody actually measured that radiation energy per second for 
various frequencies and a couple of different fixed temperatures and 
result came out as two bell-shaped graphs which showed energy radiated 
per second did increase with increasing frequency at first, but then 
would get to a maximum level, and from about visible range and higher 
_decreased_ with increasing frequency! And in ultraviolet range got down 
indeed to same levels that much lower frequencies had!

When this work was published you might wonder what happened. This is the 
part of history of physics that CH scientists want to bury, cause it 
points to just what's missing in them. The DOTI.

So you CH creature see that strange result and turn to CH scientific 
community for an answer. Nobody there believed it!.. The bulk of 
scientists of the period were dead certain dependence on square 
frequency is the actual physics and they could each derive it clearly 
and with certainty. Almost all of them dismissed such lab results as 
mistakes or shortcomings of somebody who didn't know what he was doing. 
Especially since devices which were transparent to thermal energy 
weren't that easy to be made, everybody was thinking something had gone 
wrong in the lab. But not everybody. You forgot about the MH.

Then somebody else somewhere else also measured the energy vs frequency 
in lab and got the same bell-shaped graph! Still nobody thought much of 
it cause they looked at each other and would see that majority don't 
give a damn about such results so they'd keep on believing something had 
gone wrong in the labs.

But yet again in some other place the measurements were done and showed 
bell-shaped curves again. So these Cro-Magnon scientists began to sense 
"worry"! Not the mighty enlightening surprise that the MH scientists had 
felt following that very first result that came out, but worry. CH 
scientific community got WORRIED. Cause if this graph was correct then 
their perfect physics was utterly wrong. It violated the dogma!

As a matter of fact decades later they were still referring to that 
measurement as "ultraviolet catastrophe". Catastrophe!... A valuable and 
enlightening stumble on a phenomenon that later created quantum physics 
wasn't still looked upon as what it was, but as a catastrophe. This is 
the Cro-Magnon man. What others are saying or feeling or believing comes 
first for him. What the lab result over and over again shows to be true 
isn't proof that an exciting new physics is to be discovered, but a 
catastrophe that had befallen their nice neat classical physics. Their 
dogma. Their group-belief. Their Church. Yes, they got _worried_ 
instead. See what CH is? And that's their scientists, mind you. Their bests.

In some physics books in my time this "ultraviolet catastrophe" section 
could still be seen. I think they later removed it at last. Out of 
_shame_ of what it was pointing at and how they'd lied about their own 
history of physics, cause when it was first published there were no 
"catastrophe" felt. Simply nobody believed it. But they kept flattering 
themselves by calling it a "catastrophe" in those texts and timing it, 
deliberately, to have taken place first time such result came out. 
Pretending to be such scientists that as soon as they saw the curves 
they felt their physics was wrong.

Crookeries of these sorts are all over the history of physics that took 
place in Europe up until today indeed. But they don't see them as 
crookery cause it comes out of the core of their minds. It is an 
integral part of what they are, being CH. It is what these earlier 
humans were and now are.

A real scientist would sell his mother to see that graph, and would jump 
up and down by seeing it, realizing that something very important is 
still missing and that he is at the verge of discovering it. But 
scientists of general cro-magnon type, all, just dismissed it first, and 
then later only got worried by it.

Up until 1980s the term "ultraviolet catastrophe" was in physics books. 
To me it was a double whammy cause it showed both flaws in them. Their 
lack of objectivity at first when results came out, and then later their 
lack of integrity in reporting it to students of physics in a way as if 
they'd grasped it first time it got out.

I remember our physics professor like it was today. He got to that 
"ultraviolet catastrophe" paragraph in that text (Eisberg) and smirked 
at the choice of words. Then he mentioned to the class this experiment 
result was indeed totally dismissed as error when it first came out! 
Nobody saw it as a catastrophe. But the text was still being printed out 
with those words as if those scientists back then had immediately seen 
its important implications. This bright professor _smirked_ at them :) 
So should you. So do all the MH of course. CH does not fool the MH.

Back to what really took place. Only less than a handful of scientists 
in those days noticed the significance of those curves the very first 
time results got out. And those scientists are the ones you later heard 
of, not the bulk of other scientist who dismissed it as error. We have 
heard of none of them. They are totally forgotten and gone exactly as 
they were useless when they were alive and active. And they were forming 
the majority of the "scientific community" members.


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#838257

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-11 19:36 -0600
Message-ID<sp3jn1$ctu$1@solani.org>
In reply to#837827
On 12/8/2021 10:24 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
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I briefly mentioned elsewhere (I think today indeed), in the context of 
an example for function of STP, that one of the functions of ACOB is 
Dealing With Predator (DWP) which I've not discussed yet. DWP is very 
general and detailed at the same time, and itself incorporates a 
spectrum of other functions in their own rights. One of the latter 
functions is "Fooling."


Function of Fooling

Many life forms of course have this function in their ACOB. CH and MH 
both, also of course, have them. It is part of DWP. It is the degree 
with which this art has developed in them that counts :) CH is _nowhere_ 
close to MH in this!

Curzon admitted this. He could not believe how Iranians were good at it. 
You should read those paragraphs in his work which are indeed scattered 
in a few spots inside that large volume.

And eventually of course, in the course of history applied to Curzon's 
Britain, he himself got fooled big time by Iranians over Ahmad Shah. It 
was part of how Iran could not get "colonized" by the Brits. Iran, even 
at her weakest period in history, was too difficult for Brits to handle.

That doesn't mean Indians were easy to colonize. What took place in 
India was yet another level of Fooling function :) Hehe. Indians fooled 
Britain at a greater scale. Iran only fooled them out of Iran while 
India fooled them _into_ India Hahahahah :-))

Iran in the end benefited from Britain in using them for other 
geopolitical ends (against Russians, developing oil refinery, even 
against USA), India benefited from Britain directly by having them work 
for India until Indians themselves could manage that vast country the 
way they wanted, then kicked the Brits out.

MH is some mighty perfection of Fooling indeed.

In Iran, up until 1950s Fooling was done by private but powerful 
entities and only when needed. But as I mentioned it before, Zahedi got 
bitten by it in the most painful way imaginable and later decided to put 
all that under an organized activity so government could have something 
to defend itself against such private entities. That's how SAVAK came to 
being.

I spoke of SAVAK many times. From its inception we had "fooled" 
Americans into paying hefty sums of money for it in its creation and 
initial running. And then, almost immediately after, we turned around 
and used the same "ministry", so to speak, to fool target people, 
domestic or foreign.

Any intelligence establishment is there mainly for two purposes. 
Gathering necessary data for it's plans, then fooling the target people 
into getting such plans underway. In USA this was done separately; CIA 
would do the data analyses then other government branches did the 
Fooling part. This is still so! In Iran, SAVAK did both!

SAVAK in its first 10 years of activity had no equal in the world. The 
most unimportant pieces of information in their hands would be sold as 
the most vital hard data that was sought after! :) And at the same time, 
the most important and vital pieces of information would be treated and 
shown to others as if they were just noise, not data.. SAVAK was 
_master_ of doing that. Kennedy, Eisenhower, CIA, MI5, MI6, KGB, 
Khrushchev, NKVD, none of these entities had a chance in something that 
SAVAK would concern itself with. None! They would all get fooled by it. 
All _did_.

Anybody fools, but MH does it in a manner a league above CH. Ask CH 
politicians and thinkers alike about it! :-)

Other examples? I might as well bring the entire history here. But let 
me limit myself to just a few among the stuff I've already explained in 
this blog:

Example : Christianity
Example : Communism
Example : Use of Hitler
Example : Alexander in Iran
Example : taqiyyah in Islam
Example : Mossad use of USA (post-1977)
Example : Shah's land reform
Example : Gun ownership
Example : Availability of substances for abuse
Example : TV
.............
..........

And many many more. I've explained all of them except perhaps the 
taqiyyah. So I'm not going to explain them again.


Example 3: taqiyyah

Even our religion harbors this necessary function in it. Islam has the 
practice (read: "Function") of "taqiyyah" by which when necessary, you 
are allowed to fool the target people towards your acceptable and 
honorable goals. You can't fool them to rob them of their rights or harm 
them unnecessarily. But you _can_ fool them when they get rude and 
harmful. And you do all that perfectly legally and morally! Again, ask 
the few CH people among you who've had that experience with the MH :) 
They'll have tales to tell you about them. Tales of how they got fooled 
when they got rude.





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FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-13 12:46 -0600
Message-ID<sp84f4$osi$1@solani.org>
In reply to#838257
On 12/11/2021 7:36 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
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Now briefly about DWP.


Function of Dealing With Predator

If a life form doesn't have DWP it is not a life form :) You become a 
life form when you gain features in you that can defy your predator. 
predator can be animate or inanimate. Can be other members of your life 
form too.

But the above notes are too general of course. When applied to human 
species, DWP becomes a conscious ACOB effort.

Here I won't point to perpetual existence of DWP among MH, which is 
true, but occasional absence of it among CH.

Those my age and older saw the Hippie movement. There were two different 
kinds of hippies back then. The fake and the true. Those who did it to 
oppose the violence (Vietnam war, unfair treatment of Blacks, etc) and 
those who did it because they actually believed there's no enemy 
anywhere underlying our fears and apprehensions at all. The latter 
believed we'd got it wrong about each other and everything is benign and 
the actual relationship between humans is that of peace and love. 
"There's no country" they said. "There's only brotherhood" they said. 
"Love is all you need!"

Peace man, peace! :-)) Hahahaha :)

You've got to admit that CH at times lapsed on DWP. The best that 
humanity has offered NEVER lapses on DWP. If you ever felt there's no 
predator you're either an extreme minority on the stupid side of MH 
population, or are an average CH, or have been fooled by the MH into 
lapsing on DWP. There's just no other case that applies to you as a human.

But who is this "predator" :)

If you are CH most probably your predator is some other CH among or 
around you because MH's first line of defense isn't usually sucking your 
blood but trading with you. CH isn't as good a trader as MH, so resort 
to predatory means on everybody, CH or MH.

Entire establishments, indeed, had to be built to address this issue. 
NSA's first and foremost responsibility is to catch predators among you! 
It is here to watch you Americans, not other nations. That's its main 
job. This need is not felt that much inside MH nations because they tend 
to first rely on trade with each other; they're left to themselves to 
decide the course and this has been good enough. Certainly not so in CH 
countries. CH is first a predator, and only when that won't work resorts 
to trade. On the road from us MH backward toward the first animal on the 
history line, you CH are firmly placed closer than MH to animals. Need 
for NSA is proof of that.

So, if you are CH, your predator is by all probability some other CH. 
But if you also get rude you may find MH to become your predator which 
is a very different case cause it means you're now in trouble. It means 
the end of you or your behavior no matter what and which.

MH (Mossad) got busy working on your Church (for one) as soon as you 
indicated tendencies we'd seen earlier among you in Crusaders. That's 
not a good thing for you :) You must've been rude to them somewhere or 
at some point. No?

Let me tell you how MH handles DWP. As far as relationship between me 
and my predator is concerned, only when I'm kicking his stupid fucking 
ass I know and I feel that I'm having the right relationship with him. 
The _benign_ begins to show itself only then. The Peace. It does not 
exist before the kick, or after its pain wears off in my predator's ass.

Do you understand me now? Only "THEN" you're allowed in my party.

Look at Patton! Did you see the smart scene in that movie about him? 
American forces had reached Red Army inside defeated Germany and Patton 
and his men were having a "party" with the Reds. The party could begin 
only when Patton cursed that motherfucker Red in his motherfucking face. 
Then everybody understood they could have a party.

We don't let DWP lapse in us.

If you force your head inside your ass just so you wouldn't deal with 
your predator, you become complacent like those true hippies. DWP is in 
ACOB for a reason. I even see cats who always feel and get themselves 
busy doing DWP live healthier and longer lives. Those who don't succumb 
to diseases easier and earlier! DWP is fundamental in maintaining 
everything that you are, body and soul.

Even the sheep stays healthier! Shepherds in Iran know that their sheep 
stay healthier and stronger if there's a constant fear of wolves around 
them. In seasons that wolves aren't around, they get sicker easier and 
sooner. This is a known fact.

So whoever you are, if you _ever_ felt no predator around you, rest 
assured you'll be given a nasty visit. We Iranians dealt with Alexander 
the first moment he felt no predator around him. All his "conquests" 
amounted to nil. Nothing of the Greeks ever stayed in Iran. Not in our 
culture, not in our language, traditions, art, science, religion, ... 
nothing. It was as if a caravan had entered Iran and rushed through and 
left. So much for the modifier "The Great!". To this day indeed, 
Iranians have told that story to their later generations calling that 
soldier "The Crazed". It has never been in print. Only father to son and 
father to son for 2300 years! Hehe :) "Alexander The Crazed."

Greeks in those years were CH. Look at them now and learn from it. If 
you are CH, don't place your stupid ass where MH would decide to prey on 
you. Let nature alone deal with your stupidities, through time.













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