Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Christopher Howard Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: ideal gas law - pressure and mass question Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2026 08:45:27 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <87pl3wusig.fsf@librehacker.com> References: <87a4v1wf3o.fsf@librehacker.com> <10rua1g$1jdul$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2026 16:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f5394a584364a68866bcb3d6b2d42975"; logging-data="3485233"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX192EyA1l8JOue/Npis/78rMxApw/IZoOaU=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SGo5NBAPc2q9b4uML7Kyyl0wvjo= sha1:y1cinKcib6m414+74oNKAaXx7K0= Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:895735 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn writes: > True. With constant volume, the temperature will increase according to > > ∆Q = m c_V ∆T ⇔ ∆T = ∆Q/(m c_V), > > where Q is heat; m is the mass of the gas, and c_V is its specific heat > capacity at constant volume. > > And since the equation of state (EOS) of an ideal gas, also known as "Ideal > Gas Law", can be written > > p V = N k_B T, > > if the volume V and number of particles N are constant, and the absolute > temperature T increases, then the pressure p will increase proportionally to > the change in T, therefore to the change in Q: > > ∆p = (N k_B/V) ∆T ∝ ∆T ∝ ∆Q. > Intuitively, it makes sense to me that if I have a greater mass of gas involved, therefore the pressure will increase more slowly with the same amount of applied heat. I can see certainly that temperature will increase more slowly, because, as you point out, ∆T = ∆Q/(m c_V). However, in the equation p V = N k_B T, the number of particles, N, does change with an increase in mass, correct? I think if we assumed we were dealing with air, with a molar mass of about 30 g/mol, or 3x10⁻² kg/mol, then the equation converts to this, correct?: M = N × 3x10⁻² kg/mol N = M / (3x10⁻² kg/mol) Δp = (M / (3x10⁻² kg/mol)) × (R / V) × ΔT Δp = (M / (3x10⁻² kg/mol)) × (R / V) × (∆Q / M c_air) And therefore the mass terms (M) cancel out, correct...? -- Christopher Howard