Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics Subject: Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 19:55:16 -0800 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 156 Message-ID: <675275A4.4571@ix.netcom.com> References: <-rGcnYTZybIDJ9b6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <49KcnWM7FaqorNH6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <674CF27F.3140@ix.netcom.com> <674D42FE.6C4@ix.netcom.com> <674EA881.4E95@ix.netcom.com> <67508D65.4CDD@ix.netcom.com> <3c876c165f95b2f5f16e206c1be2a0ce@www.novabbs.com> <6f758ad4-3207-4ba3-90e3-b3cebb31834e@gmail.com> <6751D836.3D4@ix.netcom.com> <6751E062.3CB2@ix.netcom.com> <67527229.B41@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2024 04:54:58 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fc67b6ce99182bd96fe79c6eb2e8c421"; logging-data="2228969"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/+wqnGJGkXR9CaYe+tf2iYxErJ5CpTqEE=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:anz8TQgDGmhklveID6ievAGvGjo= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 241205-4, 12/05/2024), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:659358 sci.physics:890367 The Starmaker wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > > > On 12/5/2024 4:04 PM, x wrote: > > > On 12/5/24 09:18, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> > > >>> George Hammond wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote: > > >>>>  > > > >>>>> Is there an afterlife? > > >>>>> > > >>>> [Hammond] > > >>>> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown > > >>>> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to > > >>>> the animals "growth curve deficit". > > >>>>     And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached > > >>>> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife ! > > >>>>  > > > >>>>> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe? > > >>>>> > > >>>> [Hammond] > > >>>> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an > > >>>> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood... > > >>>> which by simple observation seems to include all of them! > > >>>>     And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife, > > >>>> since they do not have a brain. > > >>>>  > > > >>>>> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have > > >>>>> consciousness? > > >>>>> > > >>>> [Hammond] > > >>>> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal > > >>>> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average > > >>>> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans) > > >>>> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven" > > >>>> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to > > >>>> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. ! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds? > > >>>>> > > >>>> [Hammond] > > >>>> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies ! > > >>>>> > > >>>>  > > > >>>>> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms > > >>>>> from > > >>>>> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a > > >>>>> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow, > > >>>>> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding > > >>>>> atoms > > >>>>> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate > > >>>>> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very > > >>>>> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc., > > >>>>> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the > > >>>>> time of death? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows > > >>>>> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be > > >>>>> registered. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think that the same thing happens to every human. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of > > >>>>> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist. > > >>>>  > > > >>>> [Hammond} > > >>>> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of > > >>>> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE ! > > >>>>     I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife > > >>>> before we > > >>>> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING" > > >>>>  > > > >>>> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post ! > > >>>>  > > > >>>> Best regards, George > > >>> > > >>> The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life. > > >>> > > >>> Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension > > >>> you can fly. > > >>> > > >>> Can yous people not learn from Nature? > > >>> > > >>> A caterpillar crawls on the ground... > > >>> > > >>> then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and > > >>> it flys ...you call it...butterfly. > > >>> > > >>> There is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin???? > > >> > > >> i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever, > > >> > > >> BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND! > > >> > > >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous. > > >> > > >> > > >> THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE! > > >> > > >> > > >> It...NowLife. > > >> > > >> NextLife. Next-to-Life. > > >> > > >> for example.. > > >> > > >> people say > > >> "You look like your Mother!" > > >> > > >> or > > >> "You look like your Father!" > > >> > > >> or > > >> "You look like your Mother and your Father!!" > > >> > > >> YOU ARE your mother and your father! > > >> > > >> You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word) > > >> > > >> > > >> Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex. > > >> > > >> > > >> It IS her x. > > >> > > >> just a smaller version... > > >> > > >> > > >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous. > > > > > > Yes you will die and it is feasible that your > > > brain will be eaten by maggots like billions of > > > other people before you, however some are cooked > > > into black carbon that is burned and your bones > > > will be crushed into a calcium powder using possibly > > > over 10 gallons of propane and bone grinders. Most > > > embalming does not even suppress maggots. > > > > What about the people who died right around a nuclear blast? Poor souls. > > https://freight.cargo.site/w/900/i/fbe8571d3c77bbcc5bad53af991716ec6a9b7b82edd84537664f72e4e2e0c8f9/Blandy-and-wife-with-musshroom-cake.jpg https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/einstein7.jpg -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.