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Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 19:40:25 -0800 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 146 Message-ID: <67527229.B41@ix.netcom.com> References: <-rGcnYTZybIDJ9b6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <49KcnWM7FaqorNH6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <674CF27F.3140@ix.netcom.com> <674D42FE.6C4@ix.netcom.com> <674EA881.4E95@ix.netcom.com> <67508D65.4CDD@ix.netcom.com> <3c876c165f95b2f5f16e206c1be2a0ce@www.novabbs.com> <6f758ad4-3207-4ba3-90e3-b3cebb31834e@gmail.com> <6751D836.3D4@ix.netcom.com> <6751E062.3CB2@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2024 04:40:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fc67b6ce99182bd96fe79c6eb2e8c421"; logging-data="2228969"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18x4Bi2Lu+JjLKJlEpTgR5uf2tFOlzf1AU=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:5aUcEpoeJC9ED194tyJEEFovEuE= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 241205-4, 12/05/2024), Outbound message Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:659357 sci.physics:890366 Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 12/5/2024 4:04 PM, x wrote: > > On 12/5/24 09:18, The Starmaker wrote: > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> George Hammond wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote: > >>>>  > > >>>>> Is there an afterlife? > >>>>> > >>>> [Hammond] > >>>> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown > >>>> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to > >>>> the animals "growth curve deficit". > >>>>     And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached > >>>> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife ! > >>>>  > > >>>>> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe? > >>>>> > >>>> [Hammond] > >>>> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an > >>>> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood... > >>>> which by simple observation seems to include all of them! > >>>>     And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife, > >>>> since they do not have a brain. > >>>>  > > >>>>> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have > >>>>> consciousness? > >>>>> > >>>> [Hammond] > >>>> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal > >>>> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average > >>>> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans) > >>>> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven" > >>>> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to > >>>> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. ! > >>>>> > >>>>> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds? > >>>>> > >>>> [Hammond] > >>>> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies ! > >>>>> > >>>>  > > >>>>> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms > >>>>> from > >>>>> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a > >>>>> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow, > >>>>> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding > >>>>> atoms > >>>>> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die. > >>>>> > >>>>> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate > >>>>> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very > >>>>> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc., > >>>>> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the > >>>>> time of death? > >>>>> > >>>>> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows > >>>>> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be > >>>>> registered. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think that the same thing happens to every human. > >>>>> > >>>>> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of > >>>>> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist. > >>>>  > > >>>> [Hammond} > >>>> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of > >>>> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE ! > >>>>     I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife > >>>> before we > >>>> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING" > >>>>  > > >>>> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post ! > >>>>  > > >>>> Best regards, George > >>> > >>> The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life. > >>> > >>> Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension > >>> you can fly. > >>> > >>> Can yous people not learn from Nature? > >>> > >>> A caterpillar crawls on the ground... > >>> > >>> then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and > >>> it flys ...you call it...butterfly. > >>> > >>> There is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin???? > >> > >> i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever, > >> > >> BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND! > >> > >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous. > >> > >> > >> THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE! > >> > >> > >> It...NowLife. > >> > >> NextLife. Next-to-Life. > >> > >> for example.. > >> > >> people say > >> "You look like your Mother!" > >> > >> or > >> "You look like your Father!" > >> > >> or > >> "You look like your Mother and your Father!!" > >> > >> YOU ARE your mother and your father! > >> > >> You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word) > >> > >> > >> Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex. > >> > >> > >> It IS her x. > >> > >> just a smaller version... > >> > >> > >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous. > > > > Yes you will die and it is feasible that your > > brain will be eaten by maggots like billions of > > other people before you, however some are cooked > > into black carbon that is burned and your bones > > will be crushed into a calcium powder using possibly > > over 10 gallons of propane and bone grinders. Most > > embalming does not even suppress maggots. > > What about the people who died right around a nuclear blast? Poor souls. https://freight.cargo.site/w/900/i/fbe8571d3c77bbcc5bad53af991716ec6a9b7b82edd84537664f72e4e2e0c8f9/Blandy-and-wife-with-musshroom-cake.jpg