Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: ? ? ? Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 00:59:38 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <660FAF6A.365@ix.netcom.com> References: <1HWE6H1jV8YTvxfaaL7fnCCcpe8@jntp> <17b88fef4ca97bed$41$141828$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <660FAD31.7083@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="2497802"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240404-6, 04/04/2024), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:652715 sci.physics:886353 sci.math:626635 The Starmaker wrote: > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > Am 01.03.2024 um 07:25 schrieb Maciej Woźniak: > > > > >> > > >>> The concept of time is actually based on counting events, about which > > >>> we assume, they would occur always with the same frequency. > > >> > > >>> That was the year or the day in ancient times and later the hour and > > >>> the second. > > >> > > >>> Much later men counted the waves in certain kinds of exitations of > > >>> certain atoms. > > >> > > >>> But in all cases a process of counting was meant, where the > > >>> underlying frequency was assumed to be universally constant. > > >> > > >>> But: that is problematic, because actually we don't know, whether > > >>> these frequencies are universally constant or not. > > >> > > >>> This is so, because the second is defined and measured by the same > > >>> process, which frequency we like to measure. > > >> > > >> This all comes down to the age-old question that has been repeatedly > > >> debated on these forums: What is a clock? > > > > > > https://www.bing.com/search?q=clock+picture&form=ANNTH1&refig=7f26d3e3f0dd44458d7e38ba627e82c5&pc=U531 > > > > > > These are, poor halfbrain. > > > > > > > > > > All of these do not show time! > > > > Dates belong to time values, too, because time is not only counting the > > hours, minutes and seconds within a single day. > > > > TH > > does time flow? how do you 'detect' the flow?? > > oh, oh, i'm running out of time! does time run? > > if arrow of time, where is the bow? > What time does your phone say? Do you set your phone for sunrise? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.